Gumpi
I agree with you that physical sex is a lost of energy.
I think also that celibacy is a kind of discipline of the mind, and it is attained gradually, but it works.
Gopi also tought that semen went up to the brain to feed the energy or the crown chakra, and it went up through the spinal tube, producing a big ecstasy in him. He also felt a big arousal of the sex energy, but to feed the K energy, not to have physical sex. He became a celibate after the awakening, before he was married and had children. All his sex arousal he gave it to Shakti, he also thought that Shakti devoured man,(sexually) and depicts shiva like someone feeble and dependant of the Shakti desires. But he also points that the energy of Shakti needs a lot the energy of sex, (transmuted)like a strong connection between sex and Shakti. But he refers to the seminal liquid when entering the brain or chakra to feed the energy, for him this was very important.
Celibacy is not a repressing sex matter, its transmuting the sex energy into spiritual ecstasy, this happens gradually, it depends on each person. I think this has nothing to do with "pureness" but with powerness, as Shakti feeds herself with this energy. I mean Joan of Arc was a celibate, she was "pure" but she was in the war killing people,to free France from England. But she was in communication with some angels or beings, that told her what to do. What I want to say is that the K energy was working in her, and her celibacy helped the communication with these beings that helped her.
I see human beings as spirits in a human body, I have transcended the sex arousal.
Why to think always in sex? All the human race is based on sex as the most important thing of the world, and I don't think it is, on the contrary, it is just important to make kids, but nothing more. Well to give physical pleasure to people that cannot transcend.
I don't think people understands the word "transcending"
When you take a frog in your hands, you don't think about sex, and if you think about it, its just to know if it is a male or a female, you don't feel "horny" cause you have a female frog in your hands, or any other animal, well its the same with human beings when you have transcended the sex arousal.
I don't think Buddha or Jesus, or the Dalai Lama have felt "horny" or hot, cause they have transcended this process of the energy.
Gopi transcended this process as well.
Human beings are based on sex and money, also power, but nothing more.
We need 3,000 thousand years more to *transcend* the primitive instincts.
People use to think that when one is a celibate, one is abnormal, or have a trauma, or is sick of something, but they cannot understand the word transcendence.
I don't understand why people worships celibate people, like Jesus, or Buddha, and hates the celibacy.
Neli
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Originally posted by gumpi
Neli,
I think there are a couple of reasons for celibacy that i am aware of. First, i think one of the goals is to transcend the body and since sexual thoughts consume people A LOT, they don't want those thoughts coming up in meditation and then outside meditation. It is a discipline on the body to discipline the mind. Thoughts of sexual take up a lot of mental energy and consequently when sex becomes physical more energy is lost.
I have no idea what people at AYP are saying about semen going up the spine.
Another thing is that repressing sex is harmful. Since it is habitual in thought and therefore in deed it needs to be gradually brought under control through minor suppression for short periods which then become longer and longer. Plus, enlightened people aren't thought of of indulging in sex because they have to have a "pure" image.
The western view of sex is completely different than the eastern. In Hinduism the main thrust is towards transcending body consciousness. That is the main reason why celibacy is favoured i think.
Why, do you feel like getting hot and horny with someone? Neli is a nice name lol ![[:D]](http://www.aypsite.com/plus-forum/Smileys/akyhne/icon_smile_big.gif "Big Smile")
Only kidding.
