Hi neli
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Originally posted by neli
Are you telling me that the energy that comes up from the earth is not the K energy? but another one ?
Yes. Actually, I thought that the Tummo Reiki book had mentioned that earth energy is kundalini energy, but upon re-reading it, it is very clear: The earth energy comes up and helps to uncoil kundalini's coils at the perenium so that kundalini may rise up the spine, but the earth energy is not the kundalini. (This book also has a meditation that joins the Divine Energy with the Earth Energy at the heart chakra. When I performed this meditation, I felt a loving ray of energy arise from the earth, but it is different from kundalini energy. )
I realize that both Sparkle and Christi have their own opinions about what kundalini is and their lights shine more brightly than mine, so please keep that in mind.
However, in my humble opinion, the classic kundalini (in very many books and publishings) is a coiled force at the base of the spine. And Shiva is the crown.
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Sometimes I feel the nectar pouring down in a rough way, like crowling or waving, but very small waves, very strange, but its a liquid, and its thick. (I have felt this just once)
This reminds me of what I experienced after being annointed by the Holy Ghost. It felt like someone poured honey on the top of my head and it slowly oozed down on the inside of my head. After that I could speak in tongues.. That was top-down, not bottoms up. But definately, liquid light oozing downwards.
When I do a heart meditation, the tingles that are released from my heart are very nice. I enjoy them a lot. I think they help open the heart. I'm learning how to direct them to body parts and people..
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I have read about the meditation you have mentioned, a similar one, in the K-teachers link, its a good one, but it supposed to be for being grounded.
As Christi explained, that meditation is not for grounding. The first time I did that meditation, my crown melted wonderfully and I took the white light all the way down to the base of the spine. When kundalini came up about 4 inches from the base, it felt like I was having 100 orgasms at once! By the end of the meditation, I was three feet outside of the back of my body watching the 'snake' feed on the crown (which appeared like a funnel of white liquid light). So, I believe in the merits of concentration, visualization, using willpower and determination.
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Well I think and hope that the telekinesis have lessened a little on me, cause last time, I began the meditation and the doors began to move, but only a couple of times, so I was like if "unaware", and it went....I mean, it stopped, but sometimes I cannot stop the manifestation of telekinesis, but the best thing is not to put attention, until it is unbeareable, but the moving of things doesn't worries me a lot...
Have you tried meditating while wrapped in a silk blanket yet?
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But I never force anything, or concentrate in a meditation, I only do the mudras, with my fingers, then open my hands.
With what you have told me, I can see that you have not nor have any intention of trying to voluntarily control these energies.
I have been reading "This House Is On Fire" by Shri Anandi Ma and your story reminds me of Anandi Ma's story. She would enter samadhi at a very young age and stay there for hours. The reason it reminds me of your story is because Anandi Ma would just go into these states and Dhyanyogi was very concerned that unless Anandi Ma learned how to control the energies she would not realize her full potential. Here are some quotes:
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"For the next four years, Dhyanyogi-ji's primary focus was caring for and training Ashi Devi [Anandi Ma], upon whom the future of the lineage now depended. He worked intensively with her day and night to teach her to control her energy. If she did not master her prana, she would not be able to function on the physical level to do his work because she would be in meditation so much of the time. Furthermore, if she continued to remain in these very deep states for too long and over too extended a period of time, with her prana rising to the sahasrara chakra at the crown of her head--a condition that caused her neck to swell up--she would not survive. So, Dyanyogi-ji had to work constantly to bring her prana down, and to teach her methods for staying in her body. "
I do not wish to tell you what to do, nor do I expect you to take my advice. However, I think your next step should be to learn how to control your prana and through concentrative effort, bring your kundalini up to the crown.
Here is another excerpt from "This House Is On Fire":
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"The three years that followed Dhyanyogi-ji's death experience were primarily dedicated to Asha Devi's spiritual training. Dhyanyogi-ji took her on a number of pilgrimages, during which he instructed her to do certain austerities, with the aim of gaining control of her prana so she could channel her energy into helping others. "
If you are concerned about having a blockage at the heart, here is another quote from that book:
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"At one time, Dhyanyogi-ji believed that spiritually advanced souls didn't need shaktipat, that if someone was having a strong experience of the prana, they didn't require his energy to help them along. But he discovered that without initiation, people kept having the same experiences over and over. Without the formal initiation including the Bhuta Shuddhi mantra for purification that he had been given by his guru, students appeared to reach a plateau and get stuck. He concluded that the blocks caused by their samskaras were preventing their progress. If this was happening to these more evolved seekers, the predicament for others had to be far worse. After this realization, he broke with thousands of years of tradition and began to offer shaktipat right away to people, without any prerequisites at all. "
I am alive now and I have requested to get shaktipat from Anandi Ma. It can only help.
Perhaps it may help you too?
I hope my comments have caused you to ponder your gifts and abilities and maybe perceive them from a different point of view. Nothing more.
Om Shanti
TI
ps: I realize that the basic idea in the AYP lessons is that you don't need a guru and that practices and process will bring you enlightenment. This may very well be true but I can't vouch for that seeing as how I'm not enlightened.
However, I do believe that many of the tenets and practices described here are extremely beneficial and power-full; the practices are borrowed from various sources including famous gurus and they will surely help speed one along the path. Thanks again to Yogani for assembling them.