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divinefurball

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« on: April 27, 2009, 09:50:58 AM »
Dear alwayson, please forgive my ignorance, but what is the "rainbow body" and the displaying of it? I have seen you mention it in other posts. Wishing you the very best, divinefurball
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alwayson

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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 11:23:25 AM »
when someone wields the Sambhogakâya on earth  

Then the wielder very shortly moves on and sets up his or her own Pure Land.  

So it is a precious thing when someone wields Sambhogakâya for a couple of days here on planet earth.
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divinefurball

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 11:42:40 PM »
Thank you alwayson, that was very helpfull. Can, or has, this ever been obtained by someone who is not - or was not - a practicing Buddhist? All the best, divinefurball
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alwayson

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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 01:48:46 AM »
You must be Buddhist because of how the rainbow body process works.  
The rainbow body process is based in dependent origination and dedication of merit, proper view etc.

Many of the elements necessary for rainbow body are combined  into one little paragraph such as:

I take refuge in the Buddha, Dharma and Sangha.
By the merit I accumulate by practising generosity and the other perfections, I attain perfect awakening for the benefit of all sentient beings.

In this one paragraph, you have dedicated merit for the purpose of obtainining Buddhahood for all sentient beings.  Now pay attention.  Since there is an infinite number of sentient beings, your aspiration becomes infinite, thus allows you to obtain perfect Buddhahood.
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CarsonZi

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 01:52:16 AM »
Well, I might as well just give up meditation etc since I'm not a Buddhist and will never acheive enlightenment!  What a let down[;)].  Yikes!

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alwayson

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 01:57:21 AM »
meditation is just a tool, so who knows what you will obtain.  Meditation is like a car.  You can drive in wrong and right directions.  

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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 02:06:13 AM »
You don't think the Dharma is just a tool as well?  It is.

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alwayson

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 02:11:59 AM »
No, Dharma is a view:

All phenomenon lack inherent essence, including thoughts and emotions.
Therefore simply let emotions and thoughts self-liberate, like thieves in an empty house. Or like a snake untying its own knots.
Furthermore thoughts and emotions are merely energy currents in the body.
(You can actually feel emotions in the physical chakras...)
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 02:15:23 AM »
View is synonomous with perspective.  There is no one "right" perspective for everyone.  The Dharma is NOT the one and only path to enlightenment.  To state this is ridiculous IMO.  Sorry if that seems harsh to you.  No offence meant.

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alwayson

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 02:20:55 AM »
truth is truth, no matter what you call it.

you don't even need to take refuge in the buddha, dharma and sangha.  You can also take refuge in the dharmakaya, which is nothing but the view.
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CarsonZi

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 02:22:49 AM »
Yeah agreed.  Whether you call it Dharma or I call it Yoga, Truth is Truth.

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Until you throw away all your ideas of what Truth is, you will never truly know The Truth.
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alwayson

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 02:25:28 AM »
So do you think there are good and bad thoughts and emotions?  Do you think these things have their own dualistic essence?
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 02:26:02 AM »
NO. There is no good and bad.  There only is what Is.
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alwayson

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2009, 02:27:35 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by CarsonZi
Until you throw away all your ideas of what Truth is, you will never truly know The Truth.


right I agree, thats why buddhists only negate the false claims of others, and do not assert anything.  What I wrote before was a clear negation against those who think that thoughts and emotions have inherent essence.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2009, 02:28:47 AM »
You have the thought/idea that enlightenment can only be achieved through Buddhist methods.  This is NOT Truth.  And until you drop this idea you will never know The Truth.

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