Originally posted by brauniver
>> Thanks for answer!
Hi Oliver, you are welcome.
>> For me this is the frenum.
http://>> http://www.simplyteeth.com/images/G_0055_s.jpgThanks for the picture. It's useful.
>> So it isnt enough just to cut the frenum (the skin)? As you say we have to cut deep into the flesh not just 2 cm into the skin. Is that right?
You don't cut deeply into into the flesh is one cutting. But gradually over time, you access what is deep because it will have come to the surface at the time when you cut it.
All right, you sound like you are interested and have an inquiring mind, so I'll tell you the full story.
The picture is of a person who has almost no 'frenal membrane'. Quite a number of people are like that. The frenal membrane is a very thin membrane with a sharp edge, and it is the forward-most part of the frenum when it is there. (By the way, most people have another frenal-membrane above their upper lip on the inside.) If this is cut, it tends to simply seem to disappear. What is left is blunter, and could be called frenum proper.
Even the frenum proper isn't so simple. It is in itself a complex of individually-invisible fibers embedded in flesh beneath the skin, going from different anchor points in the root of the tongue to various places near the top.
But among the fibers, some are the
most limiting for tongue movement. These tend to be the forward-most fibers when the tongue is held in a position like in the diagram. They become the tautest (hardest) when the tongue is pulled. They can tend to bundle into something like a string where they are most taut, as they do in the photograph, and you can see that they are even whitish in the photograph from the tautness.
That point that is labeled 'the frenum' in the photograph is just the currently-most-limiting part of the frenum for that person. It looks almost like a piece of string under the skin. That would be the best part to cut next for that person, in order to allow more movement in the tongue.
But when that part is cut for that person, a few things happen. Firstly, that tongue will probably get further because the most-limiting fibers are now gone. If the cut is big, a little wound that looks like a little hole will appear. Now, during healing the existing fibers in the frenum will start to re-arrange to make up for the missing fibers. In a sense, new fibers are coming to the surface. When the wound is fully healed, the new fibers will have arranged in such a way that the hole is completely gone. There will be no trace of the former wound. The frenum edge will tend to be a bit more blunt, and will protrude less forward.
So in this way, the frenum sort of seems to 'melt away' over time!
For the next cut, one goes again to the most forward, tautest, most limiting part of the frenum. And the process repeats. So, after cutting for some time, you will actually be cutting fibers that were quite deep once. But they will be on the surface when you cut them.
>> Have you got a picture of your mouth?
I have not. If I get a digital camera soon, I'll make one. There is very little trace of my frenum left visible.
>> Would it be a possibility to start with a lasercut to remove the skin and then go deeper if necessary?
Yes, that sounds very possible. You might be able to convince the dentist for you to do a later cut too. However, keep in mind that as time goes on, as I was saying the frenum edge becomes much more blunt and it looks less like there is a piece of string under the skin. I don't know to what extent a dentist will cut into that for you.
I am a person who has snipped rather rapidly. In my own experience, whereas I snipped near the middle and top in the beginning, eventually I had to look much lower down in the tongue, and pull it quite taut, to find the most limiting fibers. I began to snip eventually at more or less the point where the frenum would come in contact with the lower teeth if the tongue were pulled out and rubbed on the lower teeth. If I were instructing a dentist, I would ask him to cut into that area in my case. I think
all of the frenum can be removed by cutting through this area. In my case anyway, it appears to be conveniently clear of neighboring veins.
I hope you found that helpful,
regards,
-David