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« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2007, 07:21:05 AM »
"Sandokai" (Oneness of One and Many)
   by Shi`tou Xiqian, (Ch.700-790),
   a Shunryu Suzuki version
   


The mind of the great sage of India
was handed down closely from west to east.

People may discriminate the dull from the keen,
but in the true way there is no Ancestor of North or South.

The true source is pure and stainless.

The branch streams flow in the dark.

Clutching at things is delusion.

To recognize the truth is not always enlightenment either.

The five sense gates and the five sense objects
are interdependent and absolutely independent;
interrelated endlessly,
yet each stays in its own position.

Things have various natures, various forms.

There is good and bad taste, sound, and feeling.

In darkness, superior and inferior cannot be distinguished;
in brightness, the duality of pure and impure is apparent.

The four elements resume their nature
as a child has its mother.

Fire is hot, wind blows,
water wets, and earth is solid.

For eyes there is color and form, for ears there is sound,
for the nose there is smell, and for the tongue there is taste;

Each being comes out from the root
as branches and leaves come out from the trunk.

But both root and end should return to their original nature.

The words we use are different--good and bad, respectful and
  mean--but through these words we should understand
  the absolute being or source of the teaching.

Within brightness actually there is utter darkness;
but you should not meet someone just with darkness.

Within darkness there is brightness
but you should not see others only with the eyes of brightness.

Darkness and brightness stand with each other
like one foot forward and the other behind in walking.

Everything--all beings--have their own virtue.

You should know how to apply this truth.

Things and emptiness are like a container and its cover
  fitting together,
like two arrows meeting head-on.

When you listen to the words, you should understand
  the source of the teaching.

Don't establish your own rules.

If you don't practice in your everyday life as you walk,
how can you know the way?

The goal is neither far nor near.

If you stick to the idea of good or bad, you will be
  separated from the way by high mountains or big rivers.

Seekers of the truth,
don't spend your time in vain.
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2007, 08:26:29 AM »

The farther you enter the truth, the deeper it is.

-Bankei

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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2007, 10:08:37 AM »
The root cause of all human suffering, misery, aggression, hatred and self-betrayal everywhere is a false belief about what I am. The only solution for this problem is the truth.
-- John Sherman
www.riverganga.org

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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2007, 12:49:05 PM »
I'm currently reading Shunryu Suzuki's "Branching Streams Flow in the Darkness" and his elucidation on this scripture is very good.

This is a literal translation:


SANDOKAI

Harmony of Difference and Sameness

The mind of the great sage of India
      is intimately transmitted from west to east.
While human faculties are sharp or dull,
      the Way has no northern or southern ancestors.
The spiritual source shines clear in the light;
      the branching streams flow on in the dark.
Grasping at things is surely delusion;
      according with sameness is still not enlightenment.
All the objects of the senses
      interact and yet do not.
Interacting brings involvement.
      Otherwise, each keeps its place.
Sights vary in quality and form,
      sounds differ as pleasing or harsh.
Refined and common speech come together in the dark,
      clear and murky phrases are distinguished in the light.
The four elements return to their natures
      just as a child turns to its mother;
Fire heats, wind moves,
      water wets, earth is solid.
Eye and sights, ear and sounds,
      nose and smells, tongue and tastes;
Thus with each and every thing,
      depending on these roots, the leaves spread forth.
Trunk and branches share the essence;
      revered and common, each has its speech.
In the light there is darkness,
      but don't take it as darkness;
In the dark there is light,
      but don't see it as light.
Light and dark oppose one another
      like the front and back foot in walking.
Each of the myriad things has its merit,
      expressed according to function and place.
Phenomena exist; box and lid fit.
      principle responds; arrow points meet.
Hearing the words, understand the meaning;
      don't set up standards of your own.
If you don't understand the Way right before you,
      how will you know the path as you walk?
Progress is not a matter of far or near,
      but if you are confused, mountains and rivers block your way.
I respectfully urge you who study the mystery,
      do not pass your days and nights in vain.

Translation/Compilation copyright Soto Shumucho 1997
(November 15-16, 97; revised version)

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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2007, 05:03:30 PM »

Enlightenment is the sudden recognition that non-duality
is, has always been, and will always be the reality of
our experience. Duality is an illusion. Consciousness is
not private and personal, but impersonal, universal, and
eternal. There is no limited personal entity, no conscious
ego. The ego is a perceived object, not the all perceiving
awareness.

~Francis Lucille

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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2007, 02:33:14 AM »
The Sense of "I am" (Consciousness)

When I met my Guru, he told me: "You are not what you take yourself
to be. Find out what you are. Watch the sense 'I am', find your real
Self." I obeyed him, because I trusted him. I did as he told me. All
my spare time I would spend looking at myself in silence. And what a
difference it made, and how soon!

My teacher told me to hold on to the sense 'I am' tenaciously and not
to swerve from it even for a moment. I did my best to follow his
advice and in a comparatively short time I realized within myself the
truth of his teaching. All I did was to remember his teaching, his
face, his words constantly. This brought an end to the mind; in the
stillness of the mind I saw myself as I am -- unbound.

I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction which was to focus the
mind on pure being 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours
together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind and soon peace and
joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all
disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around
me. Only peace remained and unfathomable silence.

Nisargadatta Maharaj

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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2007, 04:50:50 AM »

This is absolutely perfect just as it is.

There is nothing missing.

When you suffer I suffer with you,

When I suffer you suffer with me,

Because we are never separate.

We come together in joy and know we are One.

We are the same you and me,

And also we are nothing alike.

That is what makes everything so.

That is how everything is,

Perfect.

The ten thousand things stretch out before us in all directions.

Like children mesmerized we are lost in play.

We are playmates you and me,

In Love forever.


~Chim-Chim

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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2007, 06:02:18 AM »
Alan
I really love that one, thanks for sharing [8D]

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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2007, 07:30:56 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by Greg108

The Sense of "I am" (Consciousness)

When I met my Guru, he told me: "You are not what you take yourself
to be. Find out what you are. Watch the sense 'I am', find your real
Self." I obeyed him, because I trusted him. I did as he told me. All
my spare time I would spend looking at myself in silence. And what a
difference it made, and how soon!

My teacher told me to hold on to the sense 'I am' tenaciously and not
to swerve from it even for a moment. I did my best to follow his
advice and in a comparatively short time I realized within myself the
truth of his teaching. All I did was to remember his teaching, his
face, his words constantly. This brought an end to the mind; in the
stillness of the mind I saw myself as I am -- unbound.

I simply followed (my teacher's) instruction which was to focus the
mind on pure being 'I am', and stay in it. I used to sit for hours
together, with nothing but the 'I am' in my mind and soon peace and
joy and a deep all-embracing love became my normal state. In it all
disappeared -- myself, my Guru, the life I lived, the world around
me. Only peace remained and unfathomable silence.

Nisargadatta Maharaj



Hi Greg,

Thanks for this really great quote. What a wonderful pointer.

It's funny I read "stay with I am" but for me these words are hard to wrap my mind around or to be aware of, I like to stay with "what is" or the part of me that Is. This points me to just pure "Being" and brings me into deep presence.

I am starting to appreciate that it would be very difficult and require a great deal of exertion to stay unwaveringly with "I am" if our thoughts were so powerfully charged (emotionally) that they continuously pulled us away. I think this is the case for most of us.

The beauty of sitting practices and self-enquiry is that they disarm the distractions and allow us to be present more and more of the time, as our minds take fewer thought trips, for shorter periods of time.

As we stay present for longer and longer periods of time, amazing things start to happen. We find profound peace and feel tremendous love, all of our senses tune into the moment and the here and now becomes physically delicious to behold and experience. Being with "I am" as is written above or with the part of me that Is, then doesn't require any effort, it is captivating in of itself. Why would I want to think about anything when feeling the support under my body, or the cool breeze on my face, or the majestic sounds or the beautiful scenery are so physically and mentally fulfilling? What makes these simple things so much richer than they used to be? Maybe all the energy I had devoted in thoughts and emotion is now lighting up the Now in amazing ways.

It's like a love affair with life on every level to be with what Is.

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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2007, 03:04:44 PM »

Be soft in your practice. Think of the method as a fine silvery stream, not a raging waterfall. Follow the stream, have faith in its course. It will go its own way, meandering here, trickling there. It will find the grooves, the cracks, the crevices. Just follow it. Never let it out of your sight. It will take you....

~Sheng-yen

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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2007, 03:14:07 PM »

That the self advances and confirms the ten thousand things
          is called delusion;
That the ten thousand things advance and confirm the self
          is called enlightenment.


-Dogen Zenji


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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2007, 07:11:42 AM »

"Ah ha ha ha ha ha!!

Oh oh oh oh ha ha ha ha ha!!

Ha ha ha ha---Ah ha ha ha!!

Ha ha ha ha!!

Eh heh heh heh....!!

Ah ha ha ha!!"

-Unknown

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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2007, 07:56:16 AM »
Thanks, glad you liked it. Here is another one from Nisargadatta that I like:

"Take the first step first.
All blessings come from within. Turn within.
'I am' you know.
Be with it all the time you can spare,
until you revert to it spontaneously.
There is no simpler and easier way."

To me this means return to the simple sense of being, of knowing that you are, that you exist (I Am). Coming back to just being, to that which is always present. I think for me the understanding that we are looking not for a firework show of some kind, but for something that we already are, that is always present and that is true right now, was of great help. Starting with the knowledge that I am what I seek, i am that. Returning to that until it is the Host and not the Guest. I know there is a paradox here, but I am told that is part of the deal.

[:)]

Greg108



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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2007, 02:45:42 AM »

Clambering up the Cold Mountain path,
The Cold Mountain trail goes on and on:
The long gorge choked with scree and boulders,
The wide creek, the mist-blurred grass.
The moss is slippery, though there's been no rain.
The pine sings, but there's no wind.
Who can leap the world's ties
And sit with me among the white clouds.

-Han-shan

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2007, 08:13:30 AM »

"Is the abode of God anywhere but in the earth, the sea, and sky, and air, and  virtue? Why do we seek the heavenly ones beyond? Whatever you see, and  whatever you touch, that is God."

- Lucan