Currents while asleep

[alan]

Katrine, i love you:)   this is my first post. i had to reply because i beleive from what you say that you are most certainly merging with the Om; the flow of Prana from whence all creation springs. yes! let its irresistable embrace wrap you in Bliss! i practice Kriya Yoga thru the hOMe foundation. check it out for info on Om.  how wonderful for you!    
i'm 44 too... 2/3/62            alan

[Shanti]

Welcome alan[]

[Richard]

Welcome to the forum Alan Keep posting

RICHARD

[Katrine]

Ether wrote:

quote:Are you a recording engineer? I studied that a couple years, and have a
friend here with a recording studio.

Nope. I sing. And play flute. This was a choir recording in surround. When I sang it (1 1/2 year ago) I had a broken ankle (skiing) and was in a plaster for 9 weeks. Boy - did I learn to sit down and do nothing [)]The recording was.....a strong experience (done in a church in Oslo)

Alan!
Welcome.
Wilkommen.
Bienvenue.
Velkommen.
Yes. I will let myself embrace [:I just want to hear what Yogani says first. In the mean time I am embraced by you. Thank you.[:I]And I will check out the )]hOMe page (I like that....HOME).
Kriya yoga......I don't know what it is. I'll have to surf the net.


May all your Nows be Here

[Katrine]

I have just red the following on OM (or AUM):

http://www.mandalayoga.net/index.php?rub=newsletter_en&p=mantra_om

I don't know what to say...
I am stunned.
Alan. Ether. I think you must be right. I reckognized SO many aspects from what I read.

Well.
I think I need to explain myself a little here. Yes - what is happening to me IS wonderful. I bathe in it. But you see, it is so wonderful that it completely shuts me up [8)]. I am SO CALM. It is a very...special mix: Ecstacy.....yet calmness. I don't know what to say. It shuts me up.

May all your Nows be Here

[Katrine]

Melissa wrote:

"You've really never heard of Kriya?"

I know SO little about Yoga...it is embarrasing. I know there are different directions in Yoga.....but not what they are. The few assanas I did when I was 18 was from a book. You'll have to excuse me.....I will catch up through the internet.


May all your Nows be Here

[yogani]

quote:Katrine wrote: I tried to meditate with a mantra this morning. It was impossible - completely out of place....it felt meaningless and superficial. The sound wants me to hear it. So I relaxed...and let myself be embraced by it. This immediately results in ecstacy. I have a question for Yogani here: There is no limit now to how high I can go with this sound. But I am a little hesitant....if I let go all the way; will I harm myself? Am I ready for this, or should I still only do 10 min meditation and 5 min pranayama (I love pranayama). And should I "hold back" while meditating? Also: Since the sound is there all the time: how to self-pace?

Hi Katrine and all.

See my comments today on nada (inner sound) versus mantra meditation here: http://www.aypsite.com/plus-forum/index.php?topic=860

Let me add that if the sound/energy is taking us up and out the crown, we will be wise to do some grounding instead, as discussed in lesson 69. If we go high without a gradual buildup and balancing of the energy over time, there can be the classic kundalini overdose syndrome. It is rare to have all of a sudden up and out one time and "they all lived happily ever afer." It is more like up and out and crash, and up and out and crash. If the crown is seriously involved, the recovery from this rollercoaster cycle can take a long time. That is not what we are looking for in AYP. More of a smooth and steady development is preferred. Then going up and out will come on gradually via root to brow practices and be light and easy, and so will the aftermath. In fact, eventually we will not know the difference between being up and out the crown and being down here. It will all become the same whole body illumination and divine flow. Then the intensity will be far greater than the crashing version, but we will not notice the intensity, because the energy will be streaming through us with very little friction. Others will notice more than we do. Achieving smooth and stable purification of the vehicle, the human nervous system, is the key in all of this. If we can do that, then there is no limit to how far we can go. We just have to build up to it gradually.

Keep in mind that "automatic yoga" does not put our safety first. It is up to us to do that. We always have the option to ground our excessive energy flows, when necessary. There are many ways to do this. It is good to become familiar with the means, just like it is good to know where the brake pedal is in our car.      

The guru is in you.

[Katrine]

Yogani
Thank you!

This immediately rings true. My hesitancy must come from deep down knowing that I shouldn't start flying before my wings are fully developped.This is my inner guru trying to guide me in the right direction. Which is down; not up.

Yes....I understand about "not beeing stuck on experiences". I will keep this in my vision all the time from now on.

Thank you, again. I feel weightlifted - and at the same time lovingly advised and grounded in my "playpin" for a while[]

May all your Nows be Here

[weaver]

Hi All,

While we are talking about inner sounds, I thought I was also going to share that since about 8-9 months there is a constant high-pitched tone in my head, maybe at about 5000 Hz or so. I'm mot aware of it most of the time when in activity, but if I listen it's always there and sometimes I can even hear it while driving. I haven't felt attracted to it or thought it has any specific significance, but rather as a bi-product or effect of meditation. The way you describe your sound Katrine, yours might be of a different type since you feel attracted to it. It would be interesting to hear if many have these inner sounds as well, if it's a common phenomenon associated with meditation.

[Anthem]

quote:I tried to meditate with a mantra this morning. It was impossible - completely out of place....it felt meaningless and superficial.

Hi Katrine,

I had this feeling off and on when I started using a mantra during meditation for the first time when I started with AYP. What really helped here was Yogani's instructions to not in-tone the mantra in a loud kind of way on the surface of the mind but to pick it up effortlessly on the subtlest levels of the mind closest to inner silence. I find this way it pulls you in to deeper levels.

Maybe this will help it feel less "out of place and superficial" for you? Also you might want to try doing one of the longer mantra enhancements found further along in the main AYP lessons.

All the best,

Anthem

[Katrine]

Thank you, Anthem
I meditated this evening, and the I AM felt ok again. I don't know....I think part of the problem is that I have used a longer mantra for more than 10 years. I shifted between that and looking at my Dan Tien. (Not at the same time; just different meditations)I will have to be better aquainted with I AM. Therefore - I will follow your advise to pick it up in a subtle way. I will report back on how things are working out.
From what I have read in Yoganis lessons, I think the worst I could do right now would be to meditate with the mantra OM.(I have never tried it). That would probably send me, rocket speed, away and afar. Don't want that - not much permanent Yoga in that outcome (from what I have heard)

Once again I would like to emphasize the importance of Pranayama. I feel how it very explicitly guides the energy where it is most needed: root to eye. eye to root. The afterglow in my spine from 5 min of pranayama is amazing. Without it, I think I would have crashed through the ceiling days ago.

Thank you[]

May all your Nows be Here

[Anthem]

Hi Katrine,

Of course only you will know what is best for you. I agree 5 minutes of pranayama is great and it is also the fastest way to balance out too! Just because it was mentioned though, the first mantra enhancement in AYP doesn't have Om in it. It is "Shree Shree I am I am" and it can be found described in this lesson by Yogani:

http://www.aypsite.com/116.html

By the way, what is "Dan Tiem"?

A

[Katrine]

Good morning Anthem[]
(You are probably sleeping)
Just calling to thank you for your great advise:

 

quote:What really helped here was Yogani's instructions to not in-tone the mantra in a loud kind of way on the surface of the mind but to pick it up effortlessly on the subtlest levels of the mind closest to inner silence. I find this way it pulls you in to deeper levels.

I followed this advise this morning. I changed my routine a little too:
Since I am away from home right now, and don't have my dog with me, I did the following:
10 min of qi-gong, 5 min of pranayama and 10 minutes of I AM meditation.
When I was finished with Pranayama, the mantra surfaced of itself (I kid you not). It is not located in my mind at all! It is deep down somewhere in the region of my heart. I is a faint (but oh so penetrating)whisper. The contrast to yesterdays experience (when it felt fake) was enormous. The way I see it; today was the first time I used it correctly: All I have to do when the thoughts come, is simply go into listening mode (NOT activity; NOT doing something with the mantra). The effect was amazing. I sunk into a bottomless cushion; a softness way down there. Yet I was very.....present.
The OM sound didn't disappear, but it wasn't important. Not an issue. I wonder; does I AM live in my heart? Is the heart where I should sink? It feels very right...
Thank you again, Anthem[]

Oh yes..Dan Tien is located about three fingers below the navel (and about two fingers inwards). It is the major energy intake...vortex. I feel it as my energetic navel chord.

May all your Nows be Here

[alan]

follow your Heart

[riptiz]

Dear Katrine,
The Om sound you are hearing which can vary from a whining, ringing etc is a sign of the heart chakra opening so no doubt this is why you hear it and find association to your heart.
L&L
Dave

'the mind can see further than the eyes'