Ajna and Crown

[Katrine]

Hi all

Lately there is a change in how I perceive the energy working in my head. I can no longer say that the energy is working in the different chakras... It is as if the Ajna, the crown and the area in the back of my head is one big chakra. They are not separate at all.. . This reminds me of how I used to perceive the lower chakras as "distinct, separated areas" – while as now it is all one, glowing spine. The ecstatic conductivity is at times very intense in my neck too. It is obvious that there has been a major block there. Now that it is being cleared, it allows for even more energy upwards. Hence my problems with self-pacing lately.  I am wondering....I perceive "lines" to go from the Ajna up my forehead to the fontanel on top of my head (you know, the area in a child that closes by the age of app. one year). Are these nerves? Or energy channels? (Both?)

It is interesting to observe that I can now clearly perceive the activity of the Ajna to also be activity in the crown. Much like I started to perceive the root chakra and the Ajna as one chakra a while back.  This activity in the crown is not bothersome or painful. I don’t focus on it, however. I don’t have to – things go on up there of its own accord.

Sometimes during the day (especially now, just a few days prior to my period) however, I will have huge surges of energy going straight up to the crown. It is accompanied with an "ache" in the fork in the middle of the head and....not pressure, but more like "being right under a vacuumer"....a huge "drawing up". This experience always alerts me. No matter how much I feel like "leaving" through the hole – I instead do a "slight sambahvi" (Just like Jim told me to, in the post "Drunk with ecstacy"). This redirects at least part of the energy to the Ajna. It works. I am still here.

 


May all your Nows be Here

[Neesha]

quote:Originally posted by Katrine

Hi all

Lately there is a change in how I perceive the energy working in my head. ... It is as if the Ajna, the crown and the area in the back of my head is one big chakra.

Hi Katrine,

Thanks for sharing this info.....I feel the energies in head also...sort of like a  sinusoidial wave.....You make me feel so close to home ....you wouldn't believe how happy I am today

Yeah it is progammed to work on its own .I experience the same sort of pressure before a menstrual period also....Actually the healing that goes on in the ashram are stronger...during this time.....

[weaver]

quote:Originally posted by Katrine

It is as if the Ajna, the crown and the area in the back of my head is one big chakra. They are not separate at all...

Hi Katrine,

Thank you for sharing this. I experience a very similar thing, and I suspect that it's common. First in the morning the sensations are fairly faint until I have done my practice, then they increase over the day so there is a fairly strong sensation in the ajna and crown and some pulsations as well, even though there are only some occasional light currents in the spine. During spinal breathing I go to the ajna, but when I go that path in the head it seems like it's impossible not to stimulate the crown as well (which responds almost as strongly as the ajna). Often the whole area seems like one as you describe. It feels like a bulge in the forehead, like a Klingon has, and sometimes I wonder if people notice it, but when I look in the mirror it's fortunately not visible.

[Katrine]

Hi Weaver

Thanks for sharing your part. I wonder....what on earth is a "Klingon has"??

Also.....do you feel the energy to be ecstatic?

May all your Nows be Here

[Shanti]

Katrine,
Klingons are a race of humanoids in the fictional Star Trek universe.
Look here for more info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon

[weaver]

Katrine,

Yes, when there is energy in the lower part of the body and the lower area of the spine, it's somewhat ecstatic, with some sexual undertones, but so far only a slight amount has started to develop there. The main concentration of energy is in the head which is so far just sensation and pulsations.

[Jim and His Karma]

quote:It is as if the Ajna, the crown and the area in the back of my head is one big chakra. They are not separate at all...

I was a little worried about this posting. At first, I thought that it was cutting against Yogani's dire warnings about going anywhere near the crown in one's thinking/doing/practicing....i.e. his "leave it alone!" injunction. Then I realized this is actually the (much) later phase stuff Yogani writes about. So Katrine is not "wrong" (insofar as a dopey word like "wrong" can apply to any of this!).

BUT....my reason for concern remain, in terms of those reading along. It's my suggestion that those who are not in the latter stages of this practice (including me and anyone else who doesn't have oceans of creamy silence, awakened kundalini, etc), not pick up on this. Please reread Yogani's injunctions about involving the crown in all this.

Katrine's chosen to work very fast, and, according to her postings, she's suffering the classic consequences (pitta overload, energy imbalance, crown discomfort, skin stuff, feeling of over-intoxication). Plus, she came in here at a pretty good level of purification (20 years of meditation) to begin with.

If you're at her point AND willing to risk consequences, that's a choice that can be made. The rest of us ought to stay away from the crown. Read the lessons to see a cogent explanation of why premature crown opening is responsibile for the kundalini horror stories one hears.

I'm in a pretty big hurry (and I'm having minor side effects, as well). And my kundalini's awake (well, receded for the moment, thanks, but I'll tell it you sent your regards). And my silence is pretty good. And I had decades of practices. And I'm not going NEAR the crown.

Ok, end of warning

[weaver]

Hi Jim,

Your warning about not deliberately going near the crown is very important and well expressed. But it seems that there is not much one can do when the crown gets stimulated indirectly by the regular spinal breathing practice and then starts tingling and pulsating. Do you experience this too?

[Jim and His Karma]

I don't think about it. I don't "go there." I establish a pathway to ajna, and whatever else happens is out of my control and I don't think about it (that's my simpleminded approach, and it's the ONLY part of my practice where I take Yogani as daddy guru and blindly follow his injunction).

This is a big reason for why we do pranayama........to create a nice established channel from  root to ajna, and ajna to root. Crown stuff is incidental. Don't think about it, focus on it, visualize it. Just stengthen and coax and "burn in" that root to ajna connection and let come what may. Ajna's the control, and if you play to the control, there's no danger at the crown.

If you start getting all bubbly at the crown, just do a nice sambavi and reestablish that connection. And trust that the crown is being indirectly nourished. Again, I take that on faith.

[weaver]

Thank you Jim, this is good advice.

[alan]

Hi Katrine. There is a diagram of the intricate crown to ajna energy lines and etc. with commentary in one of the books in the library at http://www.yoganiketan.net. I think it may be in the first volume of the Pranab Gita, but I'm not sure. The books in the library are on Adobe. For some frustrating reason when I try to open one today to see which book it is in my computer freezes.[!] There's lots of good reading there, especially for higher level experiences like what you appear to be having.  Have fun, Love alan[]

[Katrine]

Hi Jim
You wrote:

 

quote:BUT....my reason for concern remain, in terms of those reading along. It's my suggestion that those who are not in the latter stages of this practice (including me and anyone else who doesn't have oceans of creamy silence, awakened kundalini, etc), not pick up on this. Please reread Yogani's injunctions about involving the crown in all this

I am sorry if I have created confusion. This is the last thing I want! If you can misunderstand my post, then so can anyone else - I take that to heart

So. First of all; thank you for responding the way you do.
Let me clarify my post:

You wrote:

quote:Katrine's chosen to work very fast, and, according to her postings, she's suffering the classic consequences (pitta overload, energy imbalance, crown discomfort, skin stuff, feeling of over-intoxication). Plus, she came in here at a pretty good level of purification (20 years of meditation) to begin with.

Actually - I have not chosen to work fast; no more than I chose to have cancer 10 years ago. The consequences I suffer is not my "doing". It is important you understand this, Jim. What I am faced with, is a strong Kundalini that seems to have its own will. I self-pace the best way I can.

As for the crown:

You wrote:
 

quote: I don't think about it. I don't "go there." I establish a pathway to ajna, and whatever else happens is out of my control and I don't think about it

I don't think about either. I don't "go there" either. I also establish a pathway to Ajna. And yes - whatever else happens is out of my control and I don't think about it. However  - I see what I see. Thinking and seeing are two different things. I cannot help what I see. I cannot "close an eye that does not have an eyelid". I have tried to force control - to "not look". It gets worse.

It is also a fact that stopping meditation all together (when I
self pace I do 5 min twice a day - with 2 min of Pranayama) makes the surges to the crown happen more often. It seems that a tiny bit of Pranayama, and a little bit of meditation is necessary in order for me to not crash. I would be thankful if Yogani would say something about this.....

You wrote:
 

quote:If you start getting all bubbly at the crown, just do a nice sambavi and reestablish that connection. And trust that the crown is being indirectly nourished. Again, I take that on faith.

I do to. This is exactly my approach. Yet - our experiences differ.

 

quote:If you're at her point AND willing to risk consequences, that's a choice that can be made

Truthfully - I have never evaluated "where my point is". I have no idea of being "advanced". I find myself in a constant "buzz" - and I do my best to get through it. According to AYP - this can happen.

To sum up:
I don't do crown work. I go the slowest I can. This post was not at all ment as "how to experiement with the crown". I can see how it could look that way, though, and I am very sorry for the confusion I created.

Thanks to Jim; I hope it is now clarified.

Got to go....


May all your Nows be Here

[Katrine]

Shanti, Weaver and Alan

Thank you

May all your Nows be Here

[Katrine]

Hello Nsantoo

 

quote:Thanks for sharing this info.....I feel the energies in head also...sort of like a sinusoidial wave.....You make me feel so close to home ....you wouldn't believe how happy I am today

I am happy for you

May all your Nows be Here

[alan]

Dear Katrine; hoping all is going well with you.
I found the diagram I was refering to at the above mentioned site. It is in the Pranab Gita volume 2, the translation is under progress. Love to you, alan