energy & dreams

[Shanti]

quote:Originally posted by ab25

I was lead to a real person guru by a spirit(ghost?).
Does this seem strange to you?

Welcome to the forum AB
Things happen to guide us in our path... call it a guiding spirit, an angel, an inner guru.. it may all seem strange in the beginning... but give it some time and not much will happen that will surprise you any more.
The key is to allow these inner guidance into our lives without getting attached to them. Many things will happen that will leave you wondering... and it is good to wonder.. for awhile maybe.. but make sure you move on... don't get fixed on it.
Andrew's suggestion, of not doing meditation or any other spiritual practices close to sleep time, is very good.  
I am a little confused as to what your routine is right now. You say, you have stopped all energy work.. that silent meditation was better than the loud OM mantra. So... you are not following AYP correct? I am not saying following the AYP way is the answer.. but you can give it a try... Start reading from here.Lesson 10 (The first in this series) - Why This Discussion?

"All other energy work has been stopped for one month only meditation is going on now."
Sounds good

"My only symptoms are tight jaw and sleep disturbance. "
Maybe these threads will help you
Tight jaw
Housecleaning?
cure for insomnia?


"It calmed down until I started using the out loud OM mantra."
"I thought meditation would calm me, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I think the silent meditation was less disturbing."
I think you have answered your own question here... if the loud mantra is not helping.. go back to silent meditation.. at least till things settle down a bit.

Two key concepts to keep in mind...
1)Self pacing.. which means cutting down on practice till you are stable.. and in your case you have already cut down on meditation... so, you may have to change your meditation to the silent kind.. try the AYP deep meditation 13 Meditation – Awakening the Silent Seed

2)Grounding... take long walks, eat a heavier diet for awhile, make sure you are active during the day, stay away from spiritual books or anything else that will fan your bhakti, for a bit.. just till you feel a little stable energy wise.

Hope these help. Thank you for joining us and wishing you all the best in your chosen path.

[ab25]

Thanks for your help everyone. I am frustrated because I feel like
I am speaking french. I have been working with spirits in shamanism for 5 years and just had my housecleaning done with a firehose.
Nothing seems strange to me. It was a question. Does it seem strange to you?

I don't understand your yoga terminalogy.
I have no practice. I just found this site saturday. My guru is a therapist, so I know her but have not done any yoga yet. She is a teacher, I don't know if that is a guru.

I haven't slept well in 4 months so I am sorry if I am grumpy.

[Anthem]

Hi Ab25,

You may have established a pattern of energy flowing to your crown with your previous crown practices and energy work. If I suddenly found myself in your situation, I would do 5 minutes of pranayama spinal breathing  as described here: http://www.aypsite.com/plus/41.html and 10 minutes of deep meditation using the "i am" mantra as described here: http://www.aypsite.com/plus/13.html, followed by 5 minutes of rest at the end of practices.

I would do this twice a day, once in the morning and once in the early evening and see how I felt after a week or two of this routine. It could go a long way in balancing you out if you give it a legitimate try. The "om" mantra is extremely potent and does not necessarily have the balancing affect for someone who is already having energy imbalances, so I would discontinue this for now.

good luck and let us know how it goes,

A

[Wolfgang]

quote:Originally posted by ab25

Thanks for your help everyone. I am frustrated because I feel like
I am speaking french.

It is good of you that you explain to us when you feel
that we don't understand really what you want to express.
It is always difficult to express our feelings and our
situation by just typing those words in an online-forum.
Be assured that we are well meaning.
Even though we are well-meaning, the advice we give may not be
completely on target, and subsequently you may feel frustrated.
Just keep on trying (and be patient with us) !

quote:I have been working with spirits in shamanism for 5 years and just had my housecleaning done with a firehose.
Nothing seems strange to me. It was a question. Does it seem strange to you?

I don't understand your yoga terminalogy.
I have no practice. I just found this site saturday. My guru is a therapist, so I know her but have not done any yoga yet. She is a teacher, I don't know if that is a guru.

I haven't slept well in 4 months so I am sorry if I am grumpy.

I know that terminology may be confusing and I have to admit
that I don't fully understand all those yogic terms that are
around here

Are you familiar with the term 'grounding' ?
Do you feel that this is needed for you ?
Besides walks in the nature, sometimes some hard physical
work-out could be helpful as well.

Love and Light
Wolfgang

[Shanti]

quote:Originally posted by ab25


I don't understand your yoga terminalogy.
I have no practice. I just found this site saturday. My guru is a therapist, so I know her but have not done any yoga yet. She is a teacher, I don't know if that is a guru.

I haven't slept well in 4 months so I am sorry if I am grumpy.

OK.. then how about I spell it out for you.. in non yoga terms...
You have energy running wild.. you need to tame it. Just like Andrew said.. get into a routine(since you don't have one...)
Start with Deep meditation... twice a day.. for 15-20 mins.. If you think this helps.. read the lessons from the beginning..
This is how you will have a structured practice to follow.

The links I posted above have some very good points on why sleeplessness.. and how to overcome it.. (nothing to do with housecleaning or fire hose or a maid service really[:p])

I have cut and paste a part of the meditation lesson for you below..  

quote:
Lesson 13 - Meditation -- Awakening the Silent Seed
We will use a thought to do it. Not just any thought. A special
thought called a "mantra." We will use a particular method of
thinking this mantra that allows the mind to do what it can easily do
if given the opportunity, settle down.

Actually, any thought can be used to meditate, as been amply
demonstrated by researchers over the past thirty years. But we'd like
to use a particular thought, one that has certain vibratory
qualities, one that produces a certain effect in the nervous system.
It is also one we can enhance as our practice advances, but more
about that later. The mantra we will begin with here is:

…I AM…

We will not be focusing on the meaning of I AM during meditation. No
doubt it has sacred meaning in the Judeo/Christian tradition in
particular, and also bears similarity to the sacred sounds of other
traditions. It is the sound we are interested in, not the meaning. It
is the sound we will be using, within. We are after the profound
vibratory quality of the sound when it is used effectively deep
inside the mind and nervous system. Perhaps these profound effects
inside the human being are the reason why I AM has been revered for
centuries. What we will be doing is focusing on the correct
utilization of the mantra in the practice of meditation. Then we will
have the best results.

Here is how we will use it:

Find a quiet, comfortable place where you can sit, preferably with
back support. We want to remove unnecessary distractions. Just sit
and relax somewhere where you can close your eyes for twenty minutes
without interruptions.

Once you have gotten comfortable, slowly close your eyes. You will
notice thoughts, streams of thoughts. That is fine. Just observe them
without minding them. After about a minute, gently introduce the
thought …I AM… and begin to repeat it easily and effortlessly in your
mind. If your mind wanders off into other thoughts, you will
eventually realize this has happened. Don't be concerned about it. It
is natural. When you realize you are not repeating the mantra, gently
go back to it. This is all you have to do. Easily repeat the mantra
silently inside. When you realize you are not thinking it, then
easily come back to it. The goal is not to stay on it. The goal is to
follow the simple procedure of thinking the mantra, losing it, and
coming back to it when you find you have lost it. Do not resist if
the mantra tends to become less distinct. Thinking the mantra does
not have to be with clear pronunciation. I AM can be experienced at
many levels in your mind and nervous system. When you come back to
it, come back to a level that is comfortable, not straining for
either a clear or fuzzy pronunciation.

Do this procedure for twenty minutes, and, then, with your eyes
closed, take a few minutes to rest before you get up.

This practice is to be done twice each day, before you start your day
and before you begin your evening activities. It is best done before
meals, as digestion can interfere with the process of meditation.
Make a commitment to yourself to do it for a few months. Give it some
time to work. You will be amazed at the results, and then you will
want to keep going forward to more and more.

That's enough for now.

In the following lessons, we will go into more detail about the
process and consequences of meditation. After that we will begin to
work with another natural ability we each have, our ability to use
the breath to move silence in us with endless ecstasy.

The guru is in you.

Make sure you take walks, do some physical exercise and be active during the day...

[aditya]

quote:Originally posted by ab25

Thanks for your help everyone. I am frustrated because I feel like
I am speaking french. I have been working with spirits in shamanism for 5 years and just had my housecleaning done with a firehose.
Nothing seems strange to me. It was a question. Does it seem strange to you?

I don't understand your yoga terminalogy.
I have no practice. I just found this site saturday. My guru is a therapist, so I know her but have not done any yoga yet. She is a teacher, I don't know if that is a guru.

I haven't slept well in 4 months so I am sorry if I am grumpy.

Well everyone has suggeted same thing - I was last one to hit "post"
 button. ab - I do not want you to be grumpier - I edit my post.

[riptiz]

Hi AB25,
I can tell you that yogis do not encourage working with spirits of less levels than Jesus or the Buddha as they drain your life force and cause problems with your health.The Om mantra is the specific seed mantra for the crown chakra so any meditation or japa using this mantra will cause premature crown opening and the problems you are experiencing.Just reading your mail gives me headache due to your imbalances as the energetic connection is made.Unfortunately we are all different and something that works quite safely for one may not be safe for another.The swing in symptoms of lethargy are classic symptoms of energy overdose or imbalances and are found in a lot of energy workers such as Reiki when they don't look after their selves(self healing) or take too many energy attunements.I would suggest as has been suggested by others that you need grounding on a daily basis and self heal(simply placing your hands on your stomach as you relax is enough)to integrate and balance the energies.Certainly stop the Om meditation and use only silent meditation.
L&L
Dave

[ab25]

Thank you.
Sorry to spread my contangious energy imbalance.

[emc]

I just want to say I totally understand your frustration of not understanding the yoga terms or advice given! The answers to your problems is probably well covered above, but my deepest understanding of your condition of confusion and weird experiences! Been there, done that...

The 10-15-20 minutes of meditation with I AM twice a day is a fine start to get you in balance! Then add the spinal breathing, which is a superb stabilizer! Don't read too much here, though. Don't swallow all lessons at once - the site actually increases your energy flow! (Took a while before I got that...) Start with only the necessary to get going!

Wish you luck!

[riptiz]

Dear Ab25,
No problem.Emc is correct simply reading on here will make an energetic connection.Some even get increase in symptoms by reading spiritual material.
L&L
Dave