1011 From: "Margaret" <memeggings@yahoo.ca>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 0:45pm
Subject: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it memeggings
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Hi, I'm looking for guidance again. I'm not doing any particular
meditation but think of God-in-me a lot, and often in my ordinary
activities I feel sudden God awareness, like a "hello". It happened
yesterday and it continued through my busy day and I wanted the
pressure in my crown chakra to abate and don't know how to do that. I
feel there may be a danger if this pressure builds up and breaks
through. I suppose I'm practising something akin to bakti, but it's my
natural condition to feel love for God and I don't want to stop that
either. Even now as I write this, the tingling in my crown is
something I'd just like to be able to stop for a bit. I guess my main
concern is that it eventually feels almost painful, and I wonder if it
might wreak havoc if it breaks through...who would take care of me if I
went "off the deep end" with an opened crown chakra? Got to stop
writing about it for the pain won't stop. Please advise.
Margaret
1012 From: ATHENA JANISZEWSKI <athena5250@rogers.com>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 1:33pm
Subject: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it soror_x2
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Disclaimer: I am far from an expert, just another
person that has had the same symptoms.
--
I can relate, very, very much to your email. Even how
it seems to get worse when you write about it!
I started letting it break through, in fact I think
this is what you're supposed to. I visualize the crown
chakra as the lotus, entirely open, while doing
pranayama. I focus on releasing the energy up and out
of my head, sort of as if I'm a human water fountain.
This helps a lot.
For me, the pressure got so bad that I even had a CT
scan done. Breathing and visualization has gotten it
to a point that if it happpens again, I can get rid of
it in a minute or so.
Please let us know how it goes.
L*,
Athena
1013 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it obsidian9999
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Hello Margaret,
the AYP culture here is very cautious of, basically, Kundalini
entering the Crown before the Ajna has been awakened. This is based
on the belief that Gopi Krishna and others had very severe problems
because things happened in that order.
There might be something very substantial in this belief, I don't
know, but as a person with a scientific approach I am aware that we
may not have even very precise notions of what is a 'crown' or
an 'ajna' awakening. I don't think the 'opened' and closed are black-
and white, I think they may be matters of degree.
I have had things that might be explained as Ajna or Crown
awakenings, and have experienced only good results--- but these were
not in the context of rising Kundalini however. Therefore I don't
think the risk necessarily extends to the idea of Crown openings per
se. Listen specifically to the cautions --- watch for Kundalini
entering the Crown before the Ajna is awakened. This is the kind
of 'opened Crown chakra' that seems to be problematic. You don't
seem to be describing a kundalini-arising phenomenon so I'm not sure
the caution applies to you.
I don't know what the 'Crown opening' is associated with for you.
For me it's a very peaceful, complete place, where there is only one
Being, where nothing can be added to what is, and where there is no
risk of anything being taken away. It is the point of view from
outside the game of creation, where both sides, the Light and the
Dark, are rightly seen as playing for the same Source. It is free
of all forms of excitement, including emotional or religious.
A 'sutra' that came to me for awakening the Crown, is 'Where the
Game is Gladly Over'.
It is a little boring if anything, which may be why the universe was
created in the first place.
I say that half-joking, but not
joking entirely....
So I don't think an 'opened', or developed, Crown chakra takes you
off the deep end in itself.
Is your experience of the 'crown awakening' anything like this? Or
are you just experienceing a yogic transition, where your brain-
biology is just changing? I had headaches at times, sometimes in
the top of my head, that weren't actually Crown awakenings at all.
I think they were just side-effects of the change in brain function,
and the according requirements in change of blood-supply patterns,
which the blood-vessels had not adjusted to.
One suggestion which can't go wrong: keep balance, and, in
particular, sense of humor. If you are feeling 'God-in-me', share
a lot of private jokes with him/her. Have fun. Do some silly
things. Don't get grave, heavy or solemn.
If you are experiencing some religious growth, but you see God as
someone/something without sense-of-humor, (which could easily happen
if you were brought up in one of the Abrahaamic religions -- Judaism,
Christianity or Islaam) then your experience will take on a 'heavy'
quality which may well cause you headaches, whether literal or
metaphorical.
Blessings,
-D
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Margaret" <memeggings@y...> wrote:
> Hi, I'm looking for guidance again. I'm not doing any particular
> meditation but think of God-in-me a lot, and often in my ordinary
> activities I feel sudden God awareness, like a "hello". It
happened
> yesterday and it continued through my busy day and I wanted the
> pressure in my crown chakra to abate and don't know how to do
that. I
> feel there may be a danger if this pressure builds up and breaks
> through. I suppose I'm practising something akin to bakti, but
it's my
> natural condition to feel love for God and I don't want to stop
that
> either. Even now as I write this, the tingling in my crown is
> something I'd just like to be able to stop for a bit. I guess my
main
> concern is that it eventually feels almost painful, and I wonder if
it
> might wreak havoc if it breaks through...who would take care of me
if I
> went "off the deep end" with an opened crown chakra? Got to stop
> writing about it for the pain won't stop. Please advise.
> Margaret
1017 From: Amenta Amenta <sethem131@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2005 2:46am
Subject: Re: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it sethem131
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Very well put and insight-full
Thanks
--- obsidian9999 <obsidian9999@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Margaret,
>
> the AYP culture here is very cautious of,
> basically, Kundalini
> entering the Crown before the Ajna has been
> awakened. This is based
> on the belief that Gopi Krishna and others had very
> severe problems
> because things happened in that order.
>
> There might be something very substantial in this
> belief, I don't
> know, but as a person with a scientific approach I
> am aware that we
> may not have even very precise notions of what is a
> 'crown' or
> an 'ajna' awakening. I don't think the 'opened' and
> closed are black-
> and white, I think they may be matters of degree.
>
> I have had things that might be explained as Ajna or
> Crown
> awakenings, and have experienced only good
> results--- but these were
> not in the context of rising Kundalini however.
> Therefore I don't
> think the risk necessarily extends to the idea of
> Crown openings per
> se. Listen specifically to the cautions --- watch
> for Kundalini
> entering the Crown before the Ajna is awakened.
> This is the kind
> of 'opened Crown chakra' that seems to be
> problematic. You don't
> seem to be describing a kundalini-arising phenomenon
> so I'm not sure
> the caution applies to you.
>
> I don't know what the 'Crown opening' is associated
> with for you.
> For me it's a very peaceful, complete place, where
> there is only one
> Being, where nothing can be added to what is, and
> where there is no
> risk of anything being taken away. It is the point
> of view from
> outside the game of creation, where both sides,
> the Light and the
> Dark, are rightly seen as playing for the same
> Source. It is free
> of all forms of excitement, including emotional or
> religious.
> A 'sutra' that came to me for awakening the Crown,
> is 'Where the
> Game is Gladly Over'.
>
> It is a little boring if anything, which may be why
> the universe was
> created in the first place.
I say that
> half-joking, but not
> joking entirely....
>
> So I don't think an 'opened', or developed, Crown
> chakra takes you
> off the deep end in itself.
>
> Is your experience of the 'crown awakening' anything
> like this? Or
> are you just experienceing a yogic transition,
> where your brain-
> biology is just changing? I had headaches at times,
> sometimes in
> the top of my head, that weren't actually Crown
> awakenings at all.
> I think they were just side-effects of the change in
> brain function,
> and the according requirements in change of
> blood-supply patterns,
> which the blood-vessels had not adjusted to.
>
> One suggestion which can't go wrong: keep balance,
> and, in
> particular, sense of humor. If you are feeling
> 'God-in-me', share
> a lot of private jokes with him/her. Have fun. Do
> some silly
> things. Don't get grave, heavy or solemn.
>
> If you are experiencing some religious growth, but
> you see God as
> someone/something without sense-of-humor, (which
> could easily happen
> if you were brought up in one of the Abrahaamic
> religions -- Judaism,
> Christianity or Islaam) then your experience will
> take on a 'heavy'
> quality which may well cause you headaches, whether
> literal or
> metaphorical.
>
> Blessings,
>
> -D
>
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Margaret"
> <memeggings@y...> wrote:
> > Hi, I'm looking for guidance again. I'm not doing
> any particular
> > meditation but think of God-in-me a lot, and often
> in my ordinary
> > activities I feel sudden God awareness, like a
> "hello". It
> happened
> > yesterday and it continued through my busy day and
> I wanted the
> > pressure in my crown chakra to abate and don't
> know how to do
> that. I
> > feel there may be a danger if this pressure builds
> up and breaks
> > through. I suppose I'm practising something akin
> to bakti, but
> it's my
> > natural condition to feel love for God and I don't
> want to stop
> that
> > either. Even now as I write this, the tingling in
> my crown is
> > something I'd just like to be able to stop for a
> bit. I guess my
> main
> > concern is that it eventually feels almost
> painful, and I wonder if
> it
> > might wreak havoc if it breaks through...who would
> take care of me
> if I
> > went "off the deep end" with an opened crown
> chakra? Got to stop
> > writing about it for the pain won't stop. Please
> advise.
> > Margaret
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed Jun 8, 2005 8:41am
Subject: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it quickstudy05
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The main AYP lesson on crown opening is 199. It can be found at:
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/199For ways to moderate excessive energy flows and uncomfortable
pressure symptoms, see lesson 69 at:
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/69The AYP lessons prescribe spinal breathing (lesson 41) as one of the
best ways to balance energy excesses occurring in the crown and
elsewhere, while promoting opening of the nervous system at the same
time. Spinal breathing favors opening the spinal nerve via the third
eye route, which is one of the keys to maintaining balanced spiritual
progress throughout the body.
Other lessons on the crown can be found by going to the topic index
and looking up "Crown Opening (avoiding premature)." See:
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/TopicIndex--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Margaret" <memeggings@y...> wrote:
> Hi, I'm looking for guidance again. I'm not doing any particular
> meditation but think of God-in-me a lot, and often in my ordinary
> activities I feel sudden God awareness, like a "hello". It
happened
> yesterday and it continued through my busy day and I wanted the
> pressure in my crown chakra to abate and don't know how to do
that. I
> feel there may be a danger if this pressure builds up and breaks
> through. I suppose I'm practising something akin to bakti, but
it's my
> natural condition to feel love for God and I don't want to stop
that
> either. Even now as I write this, the tingling in my crown is
> something I'd just like to be able to stop for a bit. I guess my
main
> concern is that it eventually feels almost painful, and I wonder if
it
> might wreak havoc if it breaks through...who would take care of me
if I
> went "off the deep end" with an opened crown chakra? Got to stop
> writing about it for the pain won't stop. Please advise.
> Margaret
1021 From: "Athena" <athena5250@rogers.com>
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2005 10:36am
Subject: RE: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it soror_x2
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Hello Margaret and others,
Please ignore my email from yesterday. Although I read it a while ago,
re-reading the lessons posted by quickstudy05 reminded me of things I had
forgotten.
Ignore my advice! :-)
Best,
Athena
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1022 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Jun 9, 2005 1:38pm
Subject: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it obsidian9999
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Thanks, 05, for giving us these.
I have come to understand, from reading more carefully, that the
caution from Yogani on awakening the Crown Chakra before the Ajna is
pretty general, and not just restricted to Kundalini rising.
My own experience of (partial) crown awakening was perfectly stable,
but I DID have Ajna awakening significantly before it. So the Ajna
awakening could have created all the stability that served the Crown
awakening when it happened.
This theory, that the Ajna must be awakened and developed first,
else the instabilities occur, is very interesting. I am wondering
if anyone saw it anywhere else other than at AYP?
-D
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "quickstudy05" <quickstudy05@y...>
wrote:
> The main AYP lesson on crown opening is 199. It can be found at:
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/199>
> For ways to moderate excessive energy flows and uncomfortable
> pressure symptoms, see lesson 69 at:
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/69>
> The AYP lessons prescribe spinal breathing (lesson 41) as one of
the
> best ways to balance energy excesses occurring in the crown and
> elsewhere, while promoting opening of the nervous system at the
same
> time. Spinal breathing favors opening the spinal nerve via the
third
> eye route, which is one of the keys to maintaining balanced
spiritual
> progress throughout the body.
>
> Other lessons on the crown can be found by going to the topic index
> and looking up "Crown Opening (avoiding premature)." See:
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/TopicIndex>
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Margaret" <memeggings@y...> wrote:
> > Hi, I'm looking for guidance again. I'm not doing any particular
> > meditation but think of God-in-me a lot, and often in my ordinary
> > activities I feel sudden God awareness, like a "hello". It
> happened
> > yesterday and it continued through my busy day and I wanted the
> > pressure in my crown chakra to abate and don't know how to do
> that. I
> > feel there may be a danger if this pressure builds up and breaks
> > through. I suppose I'm practising something akin to bakti, but
> it's my
> > natural condition to feel love for God and I don't want to stop
> that
> > either. Even now as I write this, the tingling in my crown is
> > something I'd just like to be able to stop for a bit. I guess my
> main
> > concern is that it eventually feels almost painful, and I wonder
if
> it
> > might wreak havoc if it breaks through...who would take care of
me
> if I
> > went "off the deep end" with an opened crown chakra? Got to stop
> > writing about it for the pain won't stop. Please advise.
> > Margaret
1026 From: "Dave Moore" <riptiz@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:16am
Subject: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it riptiz
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Hi,
The idea of opening the chakras in order is simply to allow all
blockages to clear before the rise of Kundalini.If the K rises before
this time then any obstructions it meets can cause a ricochet of the
energies causing problems much as what happens in a spontaneous
awakening.Using the practice of meditation a complete balancing of the
chakras is achieved along with clearing of the nadis leading to a safe
rise.
L&L
dave
1024 From: Alison Sayer-Jones <prurple@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:23pm
Subject: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it prurple
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This theory, that the Ajna must be awakened and developed first,
else the instabilities occur, is very interesting. I am wondering
if anyone saw it anywhere else other than at AYP?
-D
Hi,
I did a bit of reading and research a few years back and read about this concept a number of times. Enough for me to get the impression it was a fairly common view. Maybe it's not comon tho' and it just happened to be what I was coming across? Funny how such things work out.
Unfortunately my books and so on are in storage at the moment and I can't reference this for you, but I recall reading about it in Tantra and Kundalini books and writings amongst others.
Al
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "quickstudy05"
wrote:
> The main AYP lesson on crown opening is 199. It can be found at:
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/199>
> For ways to moderate excessive energy flows and uncomfortable
> pressure symptoms, see lesson 69 at:
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/69>
> The AYP lessons prescribe spinal breathing (lesson 41) as one of
the
> best ways to balance energy excesses occurring in the crown and
> elsewhere, while promoting opening of the nervous system at the
same
> time. Spinal breathing favors opening the spinal nerve via the
third
> eye route, which is one of the keys to maintaining balanced
spiritual
> progress throughout the body.
>
> Other lessons on the crown can be found by going to the topic index
> and looking up "Crown Opening (avoiding premature)." See:
>
>
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/TopicIndex>
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Margaret" wrote:
> > Hi, I'm looking for guidance again. I'm not doing any particular
> > meditation but think of God-in-me a lot, and often in my ordinary
> > activities I feel sudden God awareness, like a "hello". It
> happened
> > yesterday and it continued through my busy day and I wanted the
> > pressure in my crown chakra to abate and don't know how to do
> that. I
> > feel there may be a danger if this pressure builds up and breaks
> > through. I suppose I'm practising something akin to bakti, but
> it's my
> > natural condition to feel love for God and I don't want to stop
> that
> > either. Even now as I write this, the tingling in my crown is
> > something I'd just like to be able to stop for a bit. I guess my
> main
> > concern is that it eventually feels almost painful, and I wonder
if
> it
> > might wreak havoc if it breaks through...who would take care of
me
> if I
> > went "off the deep end" with an opened crown chakra? Got to stop
> > writing about it for the pain won't stop. Please advise.
> > Margaret
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1025 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:06pm
Subject: Re: Crown chakra pressure, how to stop it obsidian9999
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Hello Alison,
Thanks. I asked Yogani about it and he said it is common. I
couldn't find out much about it on the web though, at least not on
a short search. I think I had heard that the Ajna 'should' be
awakened first, but had not heard that not doing so is the cause of
so many of those problematic kundalini symptoms.
-D
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Alison Sayer-Jones <prurple@y...>
wrote:
> This theory, that the Ajna must be awakened and developed first,
> else the instabilities occur, is very interesting. I am wondering
> if anyone saw it anywhere else other than at AYP?
>
> -D
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I did a bit of reading and research a few years back and read
about this concept a number of times. Enough for me to get the
impression it was a fairly common view. Maybe it's not comon tho'
and it just happened to be what I was coming across? Funny how
such things work out.
> Unfortunately my books and so on are in storage at the moment and
I can't reference this for you, but I recall reading about it in
Tantra and Kundalini books and writings amongst others.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "quickstudy05"
> wrote:
> > The main AYP lesson on crown opening is 199. It can be found at:
> >
> >
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/199> >
> > For ways to moderate excessive energy flows and uncomfortable
> > pressure symptoms, see lesson 69 at:
> >
> >
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/69> >
> > The AYP lessons prescribe spinal breathing (lesson 41) as one of
> the
> > best ways to balance energy excesses occurring in the crown and
> > elsewhere, while promoting opening of the nervous system at the
> same
> > time. Spinal breathing favors opening the spinal nerve via the
> third
> > eye route, which is one of the keys to maintaining balanced
> spiritual
> > progress throughout the body.
> >
> > Other lessons on the crown can be found by going to the topic
index
> > and looking up "Crown Opening (avoiding premature)." See:
> >
> >
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/TopicIndex> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Margaret" wrote:
> > > Hi, I'm looking for guidance again. I'm not doing any
particular
> > > meditation but think of God-in-me a lot, and often in my
ordinary
> > > activities I feel sudden God awareness, like a "hello". It
> > happened
> > > yesterday and it continued through my busy day and I wanted
the
> > > pressure in my crown chakra to abate and don't know how to do
> > that. I
> > > feel there may be a danger if this pressure builds up and
breaks
> > > through. I suppose I'm practising something akin to bakti, but
> > it's my
> > > natural condition to feel love for God and I don't want to
stop
> > that
> > > either. Even now as I write this, the tingling in my crown is
> > > something I'd just like to be able to stop for a bit. I guess
my
> > main
> > > concern is that it eventually feels almost painful, and I
wonder
> if
> > it
> > > might wreak havoc if it breaks through...who would take care
of
> me
> > if I
> > > went "off the deep end" with an opened crown chakra? Got to
stop
> > > writing about it for the pain won't stop. Please advise.
> > > Margaret
>
