906 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri May 6, 2005 5:40pm
Subject: We learn by our mistakes azaz932001
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Hello everyone
I have just made a mistake that I would like to share with you
I've just begun to add Yoni mudra to my practices no bad effects but no
apparent good effects either yet so when I contracted a slight cold I
thought I know I'll try Amaroli. On the first day I took about 15ml, no
apparent effect on the second day I put it up to 30 by the afternoon I
had a very slight fever and a pounding headache that's only just
beginning to fade I had to hit the paracetamol to ease it. I've since
read that you shouldn't start Amaroli while you are ill so now I don't
know whether it was the Yoni mudra or the Amaroli that caused the
problem. It certainly wasn't the cold as I've had much worse without
any of these effects.
Has anyone got any thoughts on this?
Blessings R.C.
907 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri May 6, 2005 6:31pm
Subject: Re: We learn by our mistakes obsidian9999
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Hi Richard,
my two cents worth ---
one of the problems with bringing in two practices at once is that
you just don't know which is bringing up a problem. Sometimes you
just have to use a good guess/intuition. My money (all two cents of
it) is on the amaroli. But that's from my own intuitions and
experiences, and your body/nervous system could be entirely
different.
Observe Kathy took up mantra modification and samyamas at the same
time and kinda knew which was causing trouble.
One of my indications for guessing amaroli is the slight fever. The
slight fever sounds a little more 'amaroli-ish' as a symptom.
As you may know, some people can jump into a high dose of amaroli
with no negative effect. I was one of the people at the other
extreme myself. After I took a first punch (something like the size
you took) I got pretty strong fever straight away --- something like
your experience but maybe worse --- mine was almost like having the
flu. I had to go down to a few *drops* a day. I experimented and
found that doubling the dose about every five days was a stable
formula, all the way up to a dose close to a glass a day. You
mightn't need to go down to a few drops, maybe more like (I'm
guessing) 5 ml. I'd say check your stability on that, and consider
trying the doubling-every-five-days formula. If you try that, I'd
be curious how it goes.
Blessings,
-David
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<richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> I have just made a mistake that I would like to share with you
> I've just begun to add Yoni mudra to my practices no bad effects
but no
> apparent good effects either yet so when I contracted a slight
cold I
> thought I know I'll try Amaroli. On the first day I took about
15ml, no
> apparent effect on the second day I put it up to 30 by the
afternoon I
> had a very slight fever and a pounding headache that's only just
> beginning to fade I had to hit the paracetamol to ease it. I've
since
> read that you shouldn't start Amaroli while you are ill so now I
don't
> know whether it was the Yoni mudra or the Amaroli that caused the
> problem. It certainly wasn't the cold as I've had much worse
without
> any of these effects.
>
> Has anyone got any thoughts on this?
>
> Blessings R.C.
908 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri May 6, 2005 6:36pm
Subject: Re: We learn by our mistakes -- PS obsidian9999
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> I've since
> read that you shouldn't start Amaroli while you are ill so now I
don't
> know whether it was the Yoni mudra or the Amaroli that caused the
> problem.
I missed that part of your message. I expect the reason for not
starting while you are ill is partly because you won't be able to
separate the effects of the illness from the amaroli, and won't know
how to adjust the amaroli.
I'd say that makes sense for an acute illness (like a cold) but not a
chronic illness.
-D
913 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat May 7, 2005 7:07am
Subject: Re: We learn by our mistakes -- PS azaz932001
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--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
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>
> > I've since
> > read that you shouldn't start Amaroli while you are ill so now I
> don't
> > know whether it was the Yoni mudra or the Amaroli that caused the
> > problem.
>
> I missed that part of your message. I expect the reason for not
> starting while you are ill is partly because you won't be able to
> separate the effects of the illness from the amaroli, and won't
know
> how to adjust the amaroli.
>
> I'd say that makes sense for an acute illness (like a cold) but not
a
> chronic illness.
>
Hello there thanks for your comments.
Yes I had considered that it could all be unrelated to practices, but
I don't believe in coincidence and my suspicions are on Amaroli too.
I've cut back a bit on everything and totally suspended Amaroli until
my cold gets better. I will then try again and stick with the lower
dose for a little while so that I can gauge the results better.
Blessings R.C.
922 From: victor yj <vic@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun May 8, 2005 5:20am
Subject: Re: Re: We learn by our mistakes -- PS vic
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i don't think that a low dose of amoroli should be a big deal. If you have symptoms I would just ride them out till they go away.
I started at 250 ml and did that for some weeks with no ill effects at all except for the taste which I still haven't gotten used to. Because of taste I have dropped down to 125 ml in the morning. Its just hard for me to get used to the taste but otherwise can't really tell much of any difference at all. I have heard about fevers but that seems like a temporay thing and should pass. i don't eat a prticularly clean yogic diet and am not vegetarian. That accounts for the bad taste I am sure but otherwise no problems at all so I don't think that reactions are all that much diet related.
azaz932001 <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com> wrote:
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
wrote:
>
> > I've since
> > read that you shouldn't start Amaroli while you are ill so now I
> don't
> > know whether it was the Yoni mudra or the Amaroli that caused the
> > problem.
>
> I missed that part of your message. I expect the reason for not
> starting while you are ill is partly because you won't be able to
> separate the effects of the illness from the amaroli, and won't
know
> how to adjust the amaroli.
>
> I'd say that makes sense for an acute illness (like a cold) but not
a
> chronic illness.
>
Hello there thanks for your comments.
Yes I had considered that it could all be unrelated to practices, but
I don't believe in coincidence and my suspicions are on Amaroli too.
I've cut back a bit on everything and totally suspended Amaroli until
my cold gets better. I will then try again and stick with the lower
dose for a little while so that I can gauge the results better.
Blessings R.C.
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923 From: "Danny" <danny@metalhosts.com>
Date: Sun May 8, 2005 8:34am
Subject: Re: We learn by our mistakes -- PS mysticaldan
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Namaste,
One thing i found out just today itself is how useful urine can be for cold
if you do Jal Neti with it. Even a little amount in warm saline water helps
but if u can do it with 100% concentration then nuthin like it. I did it
yesterday and today my cold is gone. I had a bad throat and a blocked ear
even that almost cleared up. Drinking urine in Amaroli doesnt help but local
application does make a difference and my energy level seems to be much
higher since i did the Jal Neti with urine. Give it a try and see the
difference.
Om Tat Sat
Dan
> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 11:07:15 -0000
> From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: We learn by our mistakes -- PS
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I've since
> > > read that you shouldn't start Amaroli while you are ill so now I
> > don't
> > > know whether it was the Yoni mudra or the Amaroli that caused the
> > > problem.
> >
> > I missed that part of your message. I expect the reason for not
> > starting while you are ill is partly because you won't be able to
> > separate the effects of the illness from the amaroli, and won't
> know
> > how to adjust the amaroli.
> >
> > I'd say that makes sense for an acute illness (like a cold) but not
> a
> > chronic illness.
> >
> Hello there thanks for your comments.
>
> Yes I had considered that it could all be unrelated to practices, but
> I don't believe in coincidence and my suspicions are on Amaroli too.
> I've cut back a bit on everything and totally suspended Amaroli until
> my cold gets better. I will then try again and stick with the lower
> dose for a little while so that I can gauge the results better.
>
>
> Blessings R.C.
924 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 8, 2005 9:19am
Subject: Re: We learn by our mistakes -- PS azaz932001
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Well folks it definitely was the Amaroli as soon as I stopped it the
fever and headache went. I must admit I was a bit sceptical that it
would have any noticeable effect at all, at least not for some time. I
must be very susceptible to it that's all. I'm going to try again with
the lower dose when I am completely better. By the way my urin dident
appear to have any taste at all and I'm not a vegitarian. As for Jal
neti I know nothing about that and I wouldn't attempt it without being
taught, I'd probably choke myself.
Thanks for your help all
Blessings R.C.
925 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun May 8, 2005 10:46am
Subject: Re: We learn by our mistakes -- PS obsidian9999
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Yip Richard, different people, varying adjustment symptoms, from
significant (warranting starting on a very low dose) to none (allowing
people to plunge into the high dose with no problems). And some of
those people who have no adjustment symptoms at all probably think we
are neurotic kooks and are making all this up!
I'm curious if you are a 'vata' type; I've read that the effects of
amaroli *tend* to be more noticeable on vata types. I'm a vata type
myself.
Blessings,
-David
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<richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> Well folks it definitely was the Amaroli as soon as I stopped it the
> fever and headache went. I must admit I was a bit sceptical that it
> would have any noticeable effect at all, at least not for some time.
I
> must be very susceptible to it that's all. I'm going to try again
with
> the lower dose when I am completely better. By the way my urin
dident
> appear to have any taste at all and I'm not a vegitarian. As for Jal
> neti I know nothing about that and I wouldn't attempt it without
being
> taught, I'd probably choke myself.
>
> Thanks for your help all
>
> Blessings R.C.
927 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun May 8, 2005 4:41pm
Subject: Re: We learn by our mistakes -- PS azaz932001
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--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
wrote:
>
>>
> I'm curious if you are a 'vata' type; I've read that the effects
of
> amaroli *tend* to be more noticeable on vata types. I'm a vata
type
> myself.
>
> Blessings,
>
> -David
>
> Yup definitely vata very much so in fact.
The interesting thing about taste was that as I was drinking it I
thought, hello there's no taste at all, then when I had a little drop
of water afterwards it tasted really sweet.
I must admit the effects were really quite profound I have had many
colds in my life and many much worse than this one but I have never
suffered with headaches and this headache was a real stinker I felt
like the top of my head was coming off. I thought I had blood
pressure but I tested it and it was normal.
Blessings R.C.
>
>
909 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat May 7, 2005 1:28am
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Aside from David's point that taking on multiple new practices makes it hard to figure out
which is giving you trouble (if there's trouble), I just wanted to note that there's a TERRIBLE
cold going around the country right now - much worse than the
norm. This all may be completely unrelated to practice!
Hope you're feeling better soon!
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> Hello everyone
>
> I have just made a mistake that I would like to share with you
> I've just begun to add Yoni mudra to my practices no bad effects but no
> apparent good effects either yet so when I contracted a slight cold I
> thought I know I'll try Amaroli. On the first day I took about 15ml, no
> apparent effect on the second day I put it up to 30 by the afternoon I
> had a very slight fever and a pounding headache that's only just
> beginning to fade I had to hit the paracetamol to ease it. I've since
> read that you shouldn't start Amaroli while you are ill so now I don't
> know whether it was the Yoni mudra or the Amaroli that caused the
> problem. It certainly wasn't the cold as I've had much worse without
> any of these effects.
>
> Has anyone got any thoughts on this?
>
> Blessings R.C.
