865 From: "Kathy" <nagoyasea@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Apr 29, 2005 0:34pm
Subject: Samyama - Sutras nagoyasea
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Hi All,
I know Yogani said that we shouldn't concern ourselves with
the 'meanings' of the sutras, but I can't seem to help myself. I was
very glad he gave clarification in a couple of his lessons to the
sutras of Radiance, Akasha - Lightness of Air and Inner Sensuality.
His explanations made perfect sense.
I'm having a hard time with 'Abundance'. It feels a little self-
serving. One thing that might come to mind is the desire for an
abundance of bhakti, or an abundance of whatever is needed at the
moment in order that we might share with others what they may need.
Does this make sense? What are other's thoughts on this?
Actually, I'm still a little unclear on 'Inner Sensuality'. Yogani
said that it will 'enliven the senses inward.' Any thoughts on this
either?
thanks in advance,
Kathy
901 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu May 5, 2005 7:31pm
Subject: Re: Samyama - Sutras obsidian9999
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Hello Kathy,
> I know Yogani said that we shouldn't concern ourselves with
> the 'meanings' of the sutras,
No, you don't concern yourself with the meanings of the *mantras*.
The *sutras* yes. That's why you should use sutras in your first
language. That's the basic difference between the two.
Certainly don't debate/think *about* the meaning /what meaning of
the sutras during samayana practice. Maybe that's what you mean
when you said the above? Just think the meaning. The sutra is
there to pull in the meaning for you. It's very subtle. The sutra
just pulls in a suggestion/vibration of the meaning. Just a touch
is enough.
> but I can't seem to help myself.
Good!
> I'm having a hard time with 'Abundance'. It feels a little self-
> serving. One thing that might come to mind is the desire for an
> abundance of bhakti, or an abundance of whatever is needed at the
> moment in order that we might share with others what they may
need.
> Does this make sense? What are other's thoughts on this?
If you balk from drawing abundance to yourself, (or worry that it
is self-serving) I'm wondering if you suffer from a common
Christian condition?
What about an abundance of vitamins?
Friends? People to help
and be helped by? Abundance of sleep? Abundance of shelter?
Abundance means enough, not too much.
> Actually, I'm still a little unclear on 'Inner Sensuality'. Yogani
> said that it will 'enliven the senses inward.' Any thoughts on
this
> either?
Here's one for you. Your Divine Beloved (your ishta), whoever that
is for you, (you are a Rosicrucian? Jesus?) is actually inside
every cell of your body. Close your eyes. Where do you go now to
meet them?
That may give you some pratyahara first-hand.
-David
902 From: "Kathy" <nagoyasea@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu May 5, 2005 8:57pm
Subject: Re: Samyama - Sutras nagoyasea
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David, thank you for the insightful response. It really helps. With
abundance, I can imagine abundance of bhakti and the abundance of
energy and time and whatever is needed to be of service. I wasn't
sure WHAT to do with inner sensuality, and your thoughts on that one
helped a great deal.
Peace,
Kathy
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>
>
> Hello Kathy,
>
> > I know Yogani said that we shouldn't concern ourselves with
> > the 'meanings' of the sutras,
>
> No, you don't concern yourself with the meanings of the
*mantras*.
> The *sutras* yes. That's why you should use sutras in your first
> language. That's the basic difference between the two.
>
> Certainly don't debate/think *about* the meaning /what meaning of
> the sutras during samayana practice. Maybe that's what you mean
> when you said the above? Just think the meaning. The sutra is
> there to pull in the meaning for you. It's very subtle. The
sutra
> just pulls in a suggestion/vibration of the meaning. Just a touch
> is enough.
>
> > but I can't seem to help myself.
>
> Good!
>
> > I'm having a hard time with 'Abundance'. It feels a little self-
> > serving. One thing that might come to mind is the desire for an
> > abundance of bhakti, or an abundance of whatever is needed at
the
> > moment in order that we might share with others what they may
> need.
> > Does this make sense? What are other's thoughts on this?
>
> If you balk from drawing abundance to yourself, (or worry that it
> is self-serving) I'm wondering if you suffer from a common
> Christian condition?
>
> What about an abundance of vitamins?
Friends? People to help
> and be helped by? Abundance of sleep? Abundance of shelter?
> Abundance means enough, not too much.
>
> > Actually, I'm still a little unclear on 'Inner Sensuality'.
Yogani
> > said that it will 'enliven the senses inward.' Any thoughts on
> this
> > either?
>
> Here's one for you. Your Divine Beloved (your ishta), whoever
that
> is for you, (you are a Rosicrucian? Jesus?) is actually inside
> every cell of your body. Close your eyes. Where do you go now to
> meet them?
>
> That may give you some pratyahara first-hand.
>
> -David
