380 From: "marion hanvey" <marion@marionhanvey.wanadoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:04am
Subject: Cutting the frenum and being tongue-tied merlyn14000uk
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My frenum was cut as a baby because I was tongue-tied.
I still lisped as a kid though - though I don't now.
When I was very little, when my parents were bored they would say to me,
"say red roses Marion"
"Yed yoses"
I finally managed to say "r" when I was 7.
When I first discovered kechari mudra via kriya yoga, I thought "cracked
it!"
The teacher was quite excited too when I told him (that's what the Sadhus
do, he said, let me look)
No it's not enough, he said
He seemed quite disappointed, I was myself. When I looked at it with a
mirror, it just looked like someone had sawed it a bit in the middle, but
most of the membrane's still there.
(Damn that doctor
No I can't do kechari, I can just about get my tongue to the soft palate.
There's nothing unnatural about cutting the frenum though, imo anway.
For me it's the fear of causing myself pain. It's the cutting of myself by
myself that seems unnatural I think. I mean I wouldn't dream of piercing my
own ears, but I think nothing of letting someone else pierce them.
Which seems a silly point of view when you think about it.
Marion
>
382 From: victor yj <vic@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:14pm
Subject: Re: Cutting the frenum and being tongue-tied vic
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Marion, if you can afford it you may have a good opportunity here, If you feel that your tongue tie operation as a child was insufficient then maybe you can find an oral surgeon to finish it and maybe hint that you would like a very thorough job. My dentist actually agreed to do this on me when we discussed it but I decided that it was not necessary.
I do understand what you mean by the unnatural feel of cutting oneself. I have that same feeling. I have a friend who is learning Kechari and he had me give him the initial snip and wants me to do the subsequent ones for him. Although he has years of Yoga practice he trusts my hand better than his own.
marion hanvey <marion@marionhanvey.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
My frenum was cut as a baby because I was tongue-tied.
I still lisped as a kid though - though I don't now.
When I was very little, when my parents were bored they would say to me,
"say red roses Marion"
"Yed yoses"
I finally managed to say "r" when I was 7.
When I first discovered kechari mudra via kriya yoga, I thought "cracked
it!"
The teacher was quite excited too when I told him (that's what the Sadhus
do, he said, let me look)
No it's not enough, he said
He seemed quite disappointed, I was myself. When I looked at it with a
mirror, it just looked like someone had sawed it a bit in the middle, but
most of the membrane's still there.
(Damn that doctor
No I can't do kechari, I can just about get my tongue to the soft palate.
There's nothing unnatural about cutting the frenum though, imo anway.
For me it's the fear of causing myself pain. It's the cutting of myself by
myself that seems unnatural I think. I mean I wouldn't dream of piercing my
own ears, but I think nothing of letting someone else pierce them.
Which seems a silly point of view when you think about it.
Marion
>
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386 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:22pm
Subject: Re: Cutting the frenum and being tongue-tied obsidian9999
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Marion,
another approach is to do the tiniest snip you can imagine with the
cuticle scissors the first time. Absolutely tiny. This way you
might get through a psychological barrier.
If pain is a concern, use an over-the-counter mouth-sore medicine
just in advance of snipping; dry the spot with a towel, apply
mouth-sore medicine, rub in the mouth-sore medicine for half a
minute, wash out and take that tiny, tiny snip.
Mouth-sore medicine makes more sense than ice.
-D
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, victor yj <vic@y...> wrote:
> Marion, if you can afford it you may have a good opportunity here,
If you feel that your tongue tie operation as a child was
insufficient then maybe you can find an oral surgeon to finish it
and maybe hint that you would like a very thorough job. My dentist
actually agreed to do this on me when we discussed it but I decided
that it was not necessary.
> I do understand what you mean by the unnatural feel of cutting
oneself. I have that same feeling. I have a friend who is learning
Kechari and he had me give him the initial snip and wants me to do
the subsequent ones for him. Although he has years of Yoga practice
he trusts my hand better than his own.
>
> marion hanvey <marion@m...> wrote:
>
> My frenum was cut as a baby because I was tongue-tied.
> I still lisped as a kid though - though I don't now.
> When I was very little, when my parents were bored they would say
to me,
> "say red roses Marion"
> "Yed yoses"
> I finally managed to say "r" when I was 7.
> When I first discovered kechari mudra via kriya yoga, I
thought "cracked
> it!"
> The teacher was quite excited too when I told him (that's what the
Sadhus
> do, he said, let me look)
> No it's not enough, he said
> He seemed quite disappointed, I was myself. When I looked at it
with a
> mirror, it just looked like someone had sawed it a bit in the
middle, but
> most of the membrane's still there.
> (Damn that doctor
> No I can't do kechari, I can just about get my tongue to the soft
palate.
> There's nothing unnatural about cutting the frenum though, imo
anway.
> For me it's the fear of causing myself pain. It's the cutting of
myself by
> myself that seems unnatural I think. I mean I wouldn't dream of
piercing my
> own ears, but I think nothing of letting someone else pierce them.
> Which seems a silly point of view when you think about it.
> Marion
