798 From: "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:11pm
Subject: How long can you hold your breath? nearoanoke
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What is the maximum time that anybody can hold their breath? Does it
have any relation to progress in meditation? People who are more
advanced spiritually can hold breath for longer times?
What happens to our pranayama when our breath cycle slowly increases
like this? In the end do we do pranayama for all 10 mins within only
one breath cycle?
Thanks,
Near
799 From: Dan Anon <sbrtdyanon@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:13pm
Subject: Re: How long can you hold your breath? sbrtdyanon
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forgive my ignorance, but i thought it was about getting away from ours 5 senses (touch,sight,taste,etc.) to connect with non physical reality,
and that if we want to live long lives, to breathe slow and deep.
an expert would illuminate this for you,
but as an amateur, one who knows little, don't try it..
i am only at the part where the zazen kicks in.
if i am upset i breathe in 8 counts hold 4 out 8 hold 4 for nine rounds,
some can do a in 4 hold 8 out 4 hold 8 and anything over 16 would be foolish unless your under expert guidance,
to reiterate, i know nothing, but the common thread of practice is love and know god while i am practicing the way
nearoanoke <nearoanoke@yahoo.com> wrote:
What is the maximum time that anybody can hold their breath? Does it
have any relation to progress in meditation? People who are more
advanced spiritually can hold breath for longer times?
What happens to our pranayama when our breath cycle slowly increases
like this? In the end do we do pranayama for all 10 mins within only
one breath cycle?
Thanks,
Near
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803 From: Isolde Manasa <babalon_v@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:05pm
Subject: Re: How long can you hold your breath? babalon_v
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As to the matter of breath control, "holding"is
actually a poor description; "cessation" is more like
it. I have never actually timed myself, but I am
fairly certain I can stop breathing for well over a
minute or two. The trick is to think of something
else...I frequently use recorded mantras, and by
focusing on them, it is much simpler to "lose oneself"
and take one's mind away from the fact that one is not
breathing. It is necessary to focus on the Ajna while
doing this. One will also want to have a clear
connection with a Deity-form as well, to give the
rising Kundalini something to identify with.
Lilith M.
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What is the maximum time that anybody can hold their
breath? Does it
have any relation to progress in meditation? People
who are more
advanced spiritually can hold breath for longer times?
What happens to our pranayama when our breath cycle
slowly increases
like this? In the end do we do pranayama for all 10
mins within only
one breath cycle?
Thanks,
Near
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Date: Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:10am
Subject: Re: How long can you hold your breath? ddghiocel
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The "trick" is the deep relaxation of the body. I agree with the holding
comment : There should not be a forced holding and an increased pressure
in the lungs, so the air does not come out. The holding should be
effortless, just by holding the diaphragm position.
Dan G
Isolde Manasa wrote:
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> As to the matter of breath control, "holding"is
> actually a poor description; "cessation" is more like
> it. I have never actually timed myself, but I am
> fairly certain I can stop breathing for well over a
> minute or two. The trick is to think of something
> else...I frequently use recorded mantras, and by
> focusing on them, it is much simpler to "lose oneself"
> and take one's mind away from the fact that one is not
> breathing. It is necessary to focus on the Ajna while
> doing this. One will also want to have a clear
> connection with a Deity-form as well, to give the
> rising Kundalini something to identify with.
> Lilith M.
> --- nearoanoke <nearoanoke@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> What is the maximum time that anybody can hold their
> breath? Does it
> have any relation to progress in meditation? People
> who are more
> advanced spiritually can hold breath for longer times?
>
> What happens to our pranayama when our breath cycle
> slowly increases
> like this? In the end do we do pranayama for all 10
> mins within only
> one breath cycle?
>
> Thanks,
> Near
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807 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat Apr 23, 2005 2:18am
Subject: Re: How long can you hold your breath? jim_and_his_...
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I've mentioned this before, but it was kind of buried in another thread. This is how (at this
point, anyway) kumbhaka happens for me. If I'm in mulhabanda and sambhavi, and my
heart is opened, the air I'm breathing starts getting extremely rich (with prana, I suppose,
though i'm not thinking very analytically when this happens). I feel compelled to breath
less and less of it as it grows richer and richer, until it's so utterly, deeply profuse that
breathing seems superfluous.
Next week it might be something else
But the idea of measuring one's progress by timing breath holding ability seems
backwards. So much so that i'm having trouble explaining why. If you're ecstatic enough
with God to be experiencing kumbhaka, you're not likely to give a darn about your
progress, for one thing.
By the time you reach a milestone, you won't care about the milestone (i.e. if you care
about the milestone, you haven't reached it yet!). So...don't sweat milestones. Just do your
practice (with feeling!) and enjoy every moment of it. If you're feeling open and ecstatic,
then notions of attainment don't apply. it's good right where you are.
J&K
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@y...> wrote:
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>
> What is the maximum time that anybody can hold their breath? Does it
> have any relation to progress in meditation? People who are more
> advanced spiritually can hold breath for longer times?
>
> What happens to our pranayama when our breath cycle slowly increases
> like this? In the end do we do pranayama for all 10 mins within only
> one breath cycle?
>
> Thanks,
> Near
