560 From: "sifbear" <sifbear@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:55am
Subject: Approaches to dealing with the monkey mind sifbear
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A lot of the posts about dealing with monkey mind/chattering mind/not-
the-mantra approach the mind as an adversary to be vanquished. This
approach works well for many, but I have had more success with a
gentler approach. It works better for me to think of the mind as a
puppy or a child that needs gentle, loving, guidance and discipline.
Rather than yelling at it and punishing it, I prefer a chuckle and
gentle re-direct.
568 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:43pm
Subject: Re: Approaches to dealing with the monkey mind jim_and_his_...
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You cannot do battle with the mind. Because battle is itself the provence of the mind. The
fight's rigged; both combatants are on the same side. You can spend decades uncovering
and analyzing the tricks and levels and loops and gambits and guiles. In the end, it's
endless fascination and distraction - the two things the mind is expert in producing - and
utterly non-effectual. The uncoverer and analyzer are products of the mind, as well.
All you can do is let it do is let the mind do its thing and spin its webs while you
summarily opt out.
Guiding the mind gently and lovingly and with discipline is a fine way to live apart from in
meditation. But if you're meditating, youv'e got to stop dancing with it. Don't dance slow
and sweet, and dont' dance hot and dirty. Either way, it's mind dancing with mind. Your
mind produces the "I" that you describe as being gently in charge! Just stop dancing and
find out who you really are.
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "sifbear" <sifbear@y...> wrote:
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> A lot of the posts about dealing with monkey mind/chattering mind/not-
> the-mantra approach the mind as an adversary to be vanquished. This
> approach works well for many, but I have had more success with a
> gentler approach. It works better for me to think of the mind as a
> puppy or a child that needs gentle, loving, guidance and discipline.
> Rather than yelling at it and punishing it, I prefer a chuckle and
> gentle re-direct.
