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Shanti

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« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2006, 01:40:09 PM »
Scott,
I have failed this yogi diet big time. Maybe its time for me to give up the idea of becomming a yogini...[:(]
Charu.. is known by other names too.. very staple food in India.. we generally add bananas to it too.. if you think of it, its like having a bowl of rice cereal with milk..  but not one of my favorits.. main ingredient milk [xx(].
Thanks any way.

Yes, the Lord does always watch over us Scott..  

-Shweta
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Scott

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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2006, 02:59:41 PM »
Shweta,

I hope you know I was totally kidding about the milk thing.  You're obviously a great yogini...showers of sweat are your tangible proof.  I'll give a tip on making charu, because the way you described it isn't how I make it...

When you cook rice, it soaks up the stuff you're cooking it in...so it's soaking up the milk, sugar and ghee.  It should be soft and gooey and there shouldn't be any extra fluid.  Not like rice cereal with milk at all...but more like rice pudding.

Anyway if you still don't like that, I don't know what to tell you...you may have no hope in yoga.

I was definitely kidding there.

-Scott
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Shanti

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« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2006, 01:49:47 AM »
Hi Scott,
Yes I know you were kidding my dear[:)]. Cooking the rice in milk.. well now that is not Charu.. that is call payesh where I come from, it is served as a dessert...  
OK, here is the deal.. I don't like milk, I don't like sweet food, I don't like desserts.. so this one is a no no for me.. I do make it often.. my kids and my husband love it.. but I don't touch that stuff. Here is something you can add when you make this.. add some slivered almonds, pistachio and raisins..
Thanks for trying to get me to drink my milk though and make me a good yogini.. Yep! no hopes for me in this path.. [:p]

OK now back to Kechari...
Does anyone feel like the mind becomes completely still when in Kechari.. or is it just my imagination..
« Last Edit: June 24, 2006, 01:55:51 AM by Shanti »
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Manipura

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« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2006, 03:18:43 AM »
quote:
Originally posted by Shanti


Does anyone feel like the mind becomes completely still when in Kechari.. or is it just my imagination..

Shweta - yes, I think that may be the case with me too.  While my tongue is in kechari, there is a profound feeling of stillness, or rest, which feels like, Ahhh . . . home at last.  But later, like in the middle of the night, there is incredible energy movement in every nook and cranny of my body.  It's calmed down a lot since I've cut way, way back on kechari (max. 5 min. a day), so it feels manageable and even sensual. There seems to be a very fine balance between the stillness and energy movement, Shiva and Shakti.  But what I'm noticing from reading others' experiences with this is that kechari affects everyone differently.  For you it's stillness, for me it's purification, for Tom it's prana flow, for Scott it's charu.  [:o)]
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Shanti

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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2006, 07:12:23 AM »
OK, I have found the nasal passage. But my tongue does not go through.. the passage does not seem broad enough for my fat tongue to go through, I guess.. and if I try to push it in.. it burns.
Any one else experience this, or am I doing this wrong?
« Last Edit: June 24, 2006, 07:36:10 AM by Shanti »
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Victor

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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2006, 08:54:50 AM »
Shweta you are doing fine, juatdon't try so hard to break through. Explore the opening to teh nasal passage, feel the midline, get familiar with the territory. During your practice just gently rest the tongu there easily and comfortably. Then, maybe after a few years or sooner or later if you are so inclined you can explore the right or left passage with the tip of your tongue but I really wouldn't worry about that at this point. just finding the nasal openings is enough for a good long while. enjoy and get comfortable there!
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yogani

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« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2006, 10:00:51 AM »
Hi Shanti:

Good advice from Victor. It was about 10 years after stage 2 before I went into the nostrils. There is no rush. Take time to assimilate what you have energetically before moving on. You don't have to wait as long as I did (it was a much lonelier road back then -- all this kechari company we have today is wonderful), but no need to get ahead of yourself either. In time, the mechanics of it will manifest, or maybe not. It is not mandatory to penetrate the nostrils to proceed along the path. In fact, the journey can continue without kechari stage 2. That is the advantage of a diverse integrated system of practices -- one way or another we will continue to move ahead according to our inner light.

Each of us has our own tendencies, and each of us will travel our own path.

The guru is in you.
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Shanti

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« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2006, 05:58:39 AM »
Thanks Victor and Yogani.
Its really disappointing though.. no near yet so far..[V]
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Scott

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« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2006, 06:01:25 AM »
I just hit stage 2 last night, without yet snipping the frenum...I was sitting there for 20 minutes pushing with my fingers, thrusting forward, etc...it happened when I wasn't paying attention to it.  Then I could easily feel the midline and what seemed like the passages on either side...

This morning I awoke to do my practices with a high pitched ringing sound in me (not just in my ears).  I had noticed the sound beforehand during meditation...as if a TV was on.  Sometimes it sounded like wind rushing through the woods.  This time it was higher, stronger and centralized.  When I'd move my head too far forwards, the sound would go away...or too far backwards, or to the side.  Only when I was in alignment was it the most apparent.

Interesting stuff.

-Scott
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Shanti

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« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2006, 06:13:06 AM »
Well Congratulations Scott. That is great... without snipping.. one of the lucky few I have to say.
Hummmmm high pitched ringing sound.. purification maybe?
You are right its very Interesting..
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Victor

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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2006, 01:25:17 PM »
Shweta, I am confused about what you refer to as the nasal passage. Do you mean the nasopharynx that the whole tongue enters (stage 2)or do you mean the individual nasal passages that are seperated but the septum?(stage 4) if it is the first then I am confident that you will get there soon. If it is the second then I would not waste any thought on frustration and just enjoy the practice of stage 2 kechari!
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Shanti

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« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2006, 01:35:27 PM »
Hi Victor.. stage 2 thats where I would be.
Sorry for the confusion..
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Victor

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« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2006, 05:38:08 PM »
Oh! i thought you were referring to stage 4. Now I understand your frustration a little better. persevere, it will come. Might take a little while but you will get there
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Manipura

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« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2006, 06:05:38 PM »
Shweta - I was confused too about where your tongue was --- it seemed that you'd gone from stage 1 to stage 4 over the weekend!  :)  I think that's why everyone was telling you to slow down.
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Shanti

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« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2006, 09:33:35 PM »
Sorry..[:(]
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