mandi
USA
7 Posts
Posted - Oct 10 2015 : 7:53:48 PM
Hello,
I know this is an older thread but...
***I have a question for Christians who have awakened K. ***
I hear many people (not Christians) talk about how 'she is a divine intelligence' and you must let go of your previous faith, etc etc etc. This idea that it is an 'intelligent force' is a unsettling a bit.
What is your experience? Is it just a profound energy source? Holy Spirit or something else?
Thanks
Dogboy
USA
1547 Posts
Posted - Oct 10 2015 : 9:09:24 PM
Call it what you will, a rose by any other name. The Holy Spirit, within you, within us all.
mandi
USA
7 Posts
Posted - Oct 11 2015 : 10:04:43 AM
But sometimes names are used to denote different things.
That's why I'm asking for personal experiences of Christians.
I have read accounts of many non-Christians who do not think it is part of that belief system. Some say it's just energy, some say it's divine. Hell, one article swears it's reptilian aliens invading!
So there again, sometimes names are changed for linguistic differences (dog & perro) and sometimes names are different because it's two different things we're talking about.
quote:
Originally posted by Dogboy
Call it what you will, a rose by any other name. The Holy Spirit, within you, within us all.
Mykal K
Germany
265 Posts
Posted - Oct 11 2015 : 12:45:08 PM
I thought Christians believe kundalini is the .
alecpeace
USA
95 Posts
Posted - Oct 12 2015 : 09:12:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Mykal K
I thought Christians believe kundalini is the .
Very true. They think Yoga will lead to possession by the devil, therefore logically, yoga must be a satanic, black magic practiced by witches.
BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
1457 Posts
Posted - Oct 12 2015 : 10:37:34 AM
HI Alecpeace
That might be a bit of an over-generalisation.
There are Christians who practice yoga and have no difficulties squaring one with the other. I'm not aware of anything Jesus said (as far as we know of course) that might be seen as a caution against yoga or kundalini. That is not to say representatives of various institutionalised religious warning against anything that is not in their book. I tend to attribute that to some kind of jealousy - just making sure followers don't look around too much and end up going somewhere else.
Dogboy
USA
1547 Posts
Posted - Oct 12 2015 : 11:20:42 AM
There is speculation that yoga influenced Jesus during his "lost twenties" travels, and that the 'Holy Spirit' be spoke of referred to his kundalini awakened from meditative practice.
So-Hi
USA
481 Posts
Posted - Oct 12 2015 : 11:30:25 AM
There are allot of different sects referring to themselves as Christians so there probably will be all kinds of answers Mandi.
Years ago I visited some Roman Catholic Priests at their retirement quarters and spoke at length for hours with one very open and knowledgeable priest.
I described the topic of this thread with him and he told me without any doubt or question that this was the descent Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit and was indeed a blessing.
It is certain that this part of the trinity is not limited to Gender ideas but is most certainly Female in her aspect experientially.
God is presented in the Masculine as the Father and the Son well that is self explanatory also but the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit. Not so much eh?
Charliedog
1527 Posts
Posted - Oct 13 2015 : 04:39:36 AM
Raised as a Catholic girl and never understood the Bible, I felt resistance to church. Now, after studying some years the Eastern philosophy, I must say, reading parts of the Bible at this moment is very interesting for me. Reading from another perspective , find the hidden symbols and there are many. Awakenings, rising out of death, transformations, serpents, the Holy Spirit etc.
What is the difference between praying and meditating? There is not such a big difference if Bhakti is there.
Use words as Holy Spirit or Kundalini, the experience is the same.
The world would be more peaceful if we lived and understood the meaning of all Holy Books in stead of comparing and judge them with dangerous narrow minds in different cultures.
Edit: The experience of words can only be found in silence.
Edited by - Charliedog on Oct 13 2015 05:36:19 AM
mandi
USA
7 Posts
Posted - Oct 13 2015 : 5:19:43 PM
I asked the original question because I have read a great deal myself and have heard lots of hypothetical. Hoping to hear more about concrete experiences from this particular perspective.
Your friend... he has personally had K awakening?
Best,
Mandi
quote:
Originally posted by So-Hi
There are allot of different sects referring to themselves as Christians so there probably will be all kinds of answers Mandi.
...
I described the topic of this thread with him and he told me without any doubt or question that this was the descent Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit and was indeed a blessing.
mandi
USA
7 Posts
Posted - Oct 13 2015 : 5:20:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BlueRaincoat
That might be a bit of an over-generalisation.
Yeah, just a bit. /s
mandi
USA
7 Posts
Posted - Oct 13 2015 : 5:22:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Charliedog
What is the difference between praying and meditating?
Praying is talking to God
Meditating is listening.
mandi
USA
7 Posts
Posted - Oct 13 2015 : 5:25:02 PM
To your point about the HG/HS being feminine.. Yes, I have always felt the characteristics were female. And since we are all 'made in God's image', then the feminine has to represented somewhere.
So-Hi
USA
481 Posts
Posted - Oct 14 2015 : 11:27:31 AM
Hi Mandi, to answer your question yes the priest was one in whom Kundalini had awakened.
The priest was recommended to me by a friend who knew of his deep wisdom, Catholicism when correctly understood is a deeply mystical tradition. we shared experiences and for him awakening came from deep devotion to God.
For me it did as well as this is a huge release, I could say trigger but that is not quite right. With me all I need to do is consider God and the flow in the spine from emanating from the heart going up and down the spine at the same time is immediate even as it is now while explaining.
If I go to Church it is too powerful as I will wind up in tears crying loudly the whole time racked with longing for God to be full re-united.
So I do not go or practice any religion in open so as not to disturb others.
My religion is God?s will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven this says it all.
One of the reasons I was talking to the priest was as a young man I could see I was never going to be normal and I already felt like I had lived all there was to do in the world there was no desire to make a family nor much of anything at all.
I had one desire and that was to fulfill the reason for being incarnated in the first place. As youth typically feels things more keenly with the weight of the years ahead on this earth than we do once life dulls us a bit over the decades and we finally arrive at the point where there are fewer years ahead than behind it is a great relief, the feelings were keen and strong a desire for God and God alone to know the creator not to get caught up in his gifts.
So I was contemplating entering the priesthood although I lacked formal Church education entirely but viewed the Catholic Priests as an example of kindness, goodness and charity, I viewed them as brothers whom felt as I did about God and therefore had to separate themselves from the masses who just did not. I viewed the priests as people who lived Gods will but did not become tangled up on the world because they just had no connection or desire for it.
To make a long story short it was not to be.
God had a better education in store for me and that was the education of being in the world with everyone and learning it was not going to take anything from me nor was I going to become like everyone else by association nor would I ever forget or loose my love for God.
In the decades that followed I learned that allot of the reasons I thought so noble were actually just fear.
Mixing with people is not like swimming in mud you do not come out dirty or loose who you are, no in fact you learn best by being a part of that which has been put in motion and is just the way it is, as it is Gods will.
Amen OM NAMAH SHIVAYA OM NAMO BAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA OM
Edited by - So-Hi on Oct 14 2015 11:47:04 AM
mandi
USA
7 Posts
Posted - Oct 15 2015 : 11:26:37 PM
Thank you very much for answering and sharing. It is greatly appreciated.
quote:
Originally posted by So-Hi
Hi Mandi, to answer your question yes the priest was one in whom Kundalini had awakened.
The priest was recommended to me by a friend who knew of his deep wisdom, Catholicism when correctly understood is a deeply mystical tradition. we shared experiences and for him awakening came from deep devotion to God.
For me it did as well as this is a huge release, I could say trigger but that is not quite right. With me all I need to do is consider God and the flow in the spine from emanating from the heart going up and down the spine at the same time is immediate even as it is now while explaining.
If I go to Church it is too powerful as I will wind up in tears crying loudly the whole time racked with longing for God to be full re-united.
So I do not go or practice any religion in open so as not to disturb others.
My religion is God?s will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven this says it all.
One of the reasons I was talking to the priest was as a young man I could see I was never going to be normal and I already felt like I had lived all there was to do in the world there was no desire to make a family nor much of anything at all.
I had one desire and that was to fulfill the reason for being incarnated in the first place. As youth typically feels things more keenly with the weight of the years ahead on this earth than we do once life dulls us a bit over the decades and we finally arrive at the point where there are fewer years ahead than behind it is a great relief, the feelings were keen and strong a desire for God and God alone to know the creator not to get caught up in his gifts.
So I was contemplating entering the priesthood although I lacked formal Church education entirely but viewed the Catholic Priests as an example of kindness, goodness and charity, I viewed them as brothers whom felt as I did about God and therefore had to separate themselves from the masses who just did not. I viewed the priests as people who lived Gods will but did not become tangled up on the world because they just had no connection or desire for it.
To make a long story short it was not to be.
God had a better education in store for me and that was the education of being in the world with everyone and learning it was not going to take anything from me nor was I going to become like everyone else by association nor would I ever forget or loose my love for God.
In the decades that followed I learned that allot of the reasons I thought so noble were actually just fear.
Mixing with people is not like swimming in mud you do not come out dirty or loose who you are, no in fact you learn best by being a part of that which has been put in motion and is just the way it is, as it is Gods will.
Amen OM NAMAH SHIVAYA OM NAMO BAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA OM
Charliedog
1527 Posts
Posted - Oct 16 2015 : 03:38:41 AM
@ So-Hi
parvati9
USA
587 Posts
Posted - Nov 02 2015 : 12:00:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mandi
Hello,
I know this is an older thread but...
***I have a question for Christians who have awakened K. ***
I hear many people (not Christians) talk about how 'she is a divine intelligence' and you must let go of your previous faith, etc etc etc. This idea that it is an 'intelligent force' is a unsettling a bit.
What is your experience? Is it just a profound energy source? Holy Spirit or something else?
Thanks
Hi Mandi
So the thread is resurrected... Life ramped up and I don't get online much anymore. Apologies for the tardy reply to your inquiry. Needless to say, the topic was initiated with the intention of opening up a discussion on kundalini awakening for Christians. Your interest is very appreciated, as there are certainly many Christians eager to discover the truth about this vitally important subject., And the truth about k awakening has been quite obscured in the past. Thankfully that is changing as more people are willing to share their extremely personal experiences. We owe Yogani a debt of gratitude for providing this wonderful forum in which those experiences are clarified.
From my own experience, there is exceeding reluctance to engage fear energies or advice - especially in regards to k awakening. If someone said to me kundalini was a manifestation of evil, it would elicit an eyeroll, instead of a thoughtful response. The key to a successful k awakening is working with the energy, rather than opposing or fearing it. The event can be challenging enough without making it more intense ... and the more we accept the process, the more we facilitate moving forward with it. Over time as the necessary adjustments are made, it does tend to get much easier and definitely more blissful.
Also, if the suggestion were made to "let go of my previous faith" due to k awakening, I wouldn't take it seriously. Rather I would find a means of reinterpreting my faith to include k awakening in a positive way.
Kundalini is an intelligent force, without a doubt. It seems that the majority of people who have experienced k awakening would agree that it is a movement of the Holy Spirit, no matter what name the Holy Spirit goes by. The division of that force into a male and female polarity beautifully explains the dynamics involved. But it isn't necessary to subscribe to that interpretation. For Christians, it is sufficient to know that the Holy Spirit is a member of the Trinity, the Godhead, and as such constitutes the divine.
Hope that helps. All the best on your spiritual path.
love
parvati
Edited by - parvati9 on Nov 03 2015 09:59:29 AM