coffeegeek
Armenia
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Posted - Apr 14 2016 : 4:48:28 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
I've drunk a lot of espresso and after caffeine addiction (see here about it -
http://coffeehealtheffects.com/caffeine-dependence-coffee-addiction) I stop to consume coffeine. Well, it is very unhealthy and dangerous. Who can recommend me something different, with small amounts of caffeine? Thank you!
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sunyata
USA
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Posted - Apr 15 2016 : 09:27:53 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi coffeegeek,
Have you tried green tea? You can find caffeinated and De-caffeinated.
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Godslave
Canada
95 Posts
Posted - Apr 19 2016 : 09:30:53 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Yesterday I was reading in the FAQ about
the effects of drugs/alcohol/tobacco on Yoga practice.
I found a section in
Lesson 307 : Hallucinogens and Yoga which also mentions caffeine:
quote:
This leads to the second question: Are drugs an aid in ongoing yoga practice? If there is any initial benefit found in the artificial experience produced by drugs, then the repetition of that experience is not likely to take us further. To assume so is a flight of fancy the magic bullet syndrome. In the case of continuing with hallucinogenic drugs to recreate a particular kind of experience, we will be producing the opposite effect underneath adding to the obstructions lodged deep within our nervous system.
Spiritual development is not primarily about having a temporary peak experience. Rather, it is a natural and permanent awakening, which can be achieved only through ongoing deep inner purification. This is why anyone engaged in daily deep meditation will find urges for substances that produce artificial experiences falling away. This applies to hallucinogenic drugs, alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, and eating habits that retard the natural expression of the divine light emerging from within us.
(emphasis added)
This answers my original questions about caffeine and whether it is "good" for me or "bad". From reading this, I find that for me it will be better to avoid caffeine and keep up the 2x daily practice, so that I can purify my nervous system more, and avoid creating obstructions with caffeine.
Any thoughts?
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sunyata
USA
1395 Posts
Posted - Apr 20 2016 : 1:19:02 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
This answers my original questions about caffeine and whether it is "good" for me or "bad". From reading this, I find that for me it will be better to avoid caffeine and keep up the 2x daily practice, so that I can purify my nervous system more, and avoid creating obstructions with caffeine.
Any thoughts?
Hi Godslave,
You probably have read that food/diet only aid spiritual progress. Twice daily practices is the way to progress. It's up to you, to quit cold turkey or wean off slowly.
Any desires suppressed will sprout sooner or later. Do your practices and let things fall off on their own. In time with practices coffee, wine starts interfering with the natural bliss that arises after practices. Listen to your inner guru. Hope this helps.
Edited by - sunyata on Apr 20 2016 9:48:47 PM
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Godslave
Canada
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Posted - Apr 20 2016 : 3:43:22 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by sunyata
Hi Godslave,
You probably have read that food/diet only aid spiritual progress. Twice daily practices is the way to progress. It's up to you, to quit cold turkey or wean off slowly.
Any desires suppressed will sprout sooner are later. Do your practices and let things fall off on their own. In time with practices coffee, wine starts interfering with the natural bliss that arises after practices. Listen to your inner guru. Hope this helps.
Hi sunyata,
Thanks for the reply. I can see what you mean, as with coffee in particular I have quit several times already. Then I have resumed when life seemed overwhelming and I wanted a boost of energy to get me through the work day, after a few nights of not enough sleep.
The last time I quit, I did it by drinking swiss water decaf for some of my coffees. I would have 1 caffeinated in the morning, then decaf in the afternoon. I found I could gradually lessen the amount that way.
This past week, I went from 1 coffee per day to a black tea one morning, then a green tea the next morning, then no tea or coffee, just hot chocolate, this afternoon. But this time while decreasing my caffeine intake I have also been doing Spinal Breathing and Deep Meditation for a number of weeks, which has helped a lot.
I try to listen to my heart, my inner guru... and if I try to go against it I know it will make my days much more difficult in terms of effort.
I'm still learning
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coffeegeek
Armenia
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Posted - Apr 25 2016 : 03:08:18 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
sunyata, thanks for your advice! I will try a green tea!
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kumar ul islam
United Kingdom
671 Posts
Posted - Apr 25 2016 : 6:31:56 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
i always refer to gong and the flying teapot
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Prem
Canada
90 Posts
Posted - Jul 22 2016 : 12:02:33 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Prem's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
I've decreased consumption to one or two small cups first thing when I wake. Then I switch over to black tea, usually two teas and nothing after 3 pm as it will disrupt my sleep. So even though I know I'm very sensitive to caffeine as far as sleep it doesn't seem to bother my meditations. I once gave up coffee for a year and did not note any great benefit to not having it. I have a friend who can drink tea all day and remain calm but the tiniest bit of coffee makes him edgy and shaky. Yerba mate gives me a very nice high yet calm energy.
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Deer Medicine
USA
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Posted - Jan 17 2018 : 11:11:19 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
I quit coffee two months ago after realizing that it contributed to panic attacks. I just started a job where I have to get up at 5:00am though, so I have a cup or two in the morning. In an ideal world I would not drink it. I would agree with comments that say that it replaces the bliss flow with a more hectic vibration.
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BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jan 17 2018 : 12:43:30 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
I haven't been able to drink coffee for years. It makes me feel agitated. "Hectic vibration" is a good description.
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Godslave
Canada
95 Posts
Posted - May 29 2018 : 10:01:38 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
I haven't updated here for a while, but I have finally stopped drinking any caffeinated beverages. I also stopped eating chocolate which was affecting me as well.
I then found out through family that my uncle also cannot tolerate caffeine, and never drinks it.
I have been eating small amounts of chocolate chips in cookies, but nothing more than that.
I found that my memory improved a lot, and my irritation levels went way down.
I haven't been doing AYP consistently, but I do keep a log and I have been doing it on average 10 times a month. I do 5 minutes SBP, then 10 minutes DM, then 2.5 minutes rest. This especially helps if I am feeling overwhelmed.
