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Originally posted by Alvin Chan
Hi all,
I'm still struggling with the tantric practice. For me, the chance of successfully doing it is very low, thus I end up ejaculating much more often than I would wish. I can stop the strokes whenever I decide to. But sometimes I go too close and it's too late to stop then. On the other hand, I am very much concerned about the possible side-effects of blocking. It sounds terrible for me. Is there other techniques (preferably less violent ones) which I can use to replace blocking? (without having to practice for many years....)
Alvin
Hello Alvin and All,
I mentioned doing a Tantric post in another section recently .... and, well, this isn't it.
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Too late / early.
A couple of hopefully helpful comments, though:
I got to my current "mega-orgasmic independent of ejaculation" stage through a variety of practices -- and I personally think I used blocking once.
Didn't much care for it.
Basically, my approach (which took at least several weeks to really hit "cruising altitude" with) was to roll the intensity of my Tantric solo sexual practices (aka .... nahh .... you all know what it's "aka" already .....
) WAYYYYY back.
Meaning: my goal wasn't to get as physically excited as possible, and then orgasm and ejaculate.
My goal was to experience enjoyable movement of Shakti energy, and physical pleasure, while engaging in exploratory / fun / interesting sexual fantasies (aka "A fun way to spend a Saturday morning".
).
The "main enjoyability" became feeling really good, while having enjoyable fantasies, while _also_ (VERY important) -- learning _exactly_ what my body responds to ---- what exact kind of touching, how much, for how long, and so on.
Early on, I still felt a compulsion to ejaculate -- and did -- then, I was inspired by the AYP Tantra lessons to at least try not to -- so rolled the intensity back, even more.
I would then literally make myself stop, before I got so close to ejaculation that I couldn't stop.
Then --- I would "tip-toe" closer, until I was *right* on the brink, and fling my hands out to my sides, breathe very deeply and slowly (known Tantric technique for delaying ejaculation) AND drawing my attention up my spine, and to my Ajna chakra.
Directing all this energy _away_ from the physical site of ejaculation almost always worked (probably 19 times out of 20), so that I didn't ejaculate.
The "down" side at the time was: I didn't orgasm, either.
Then, as reported elsewhere, I started experiencing ecstatic bliss in my head area, more and more -- and so was even more motivated to draw near-orgasmic energy up into my head -- because it made the ecstasy even better (so there was clearly a channel being opened).
THEN -- I got to the point where I was SO close to orgasm / ejaculation, that I *thought* I was ejaculating! I felt those same exact muscle spasms ... and expected to have a puddle on my belly (remember: my hands were flung out at my sides, per my goal to avoid ejaculation by continued stroking).
Once or twice, I had a drop of semen -- but then, no fluid at all (though sometimes if I "milk" my lingam when using the bathroom, some semen comes out).
For the most part, though -- I never see it, and it is presumably re-absorbed.
NOW - here's the climax ....
(Pun ultra-intended) ..... I have lately hit the territory of full-blown, TRUE, ACTUAL orgasms with NO ejaculation, and once, without touching myself!!
(Wanted to see if a man could do this. A man can do this.
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So, summary steps:
*Back away from the orgasm ....
*Back WAY away from the orgasm ....
*Develop some good fantasies -- you may be at this for a while .... I had sessions that would go 2-3 hours (in the name of yogic experimentation, and for the good of all, of course ......
), and dedicated Saturday and Sunday mornings to this, for several weeks straight ("Who cares if it's sunny out ....?!"
)
*Be "sneaky like fox", approaching the orgasm ....
*Be willing to abandon ship .... hands away, breath away, thoughts away, energy and attention pulled to other end of body (point between eyebrows) ..... to stop orgasm at brink of ejaculation.
*Be very faithful in all other energetic practices, especially those that draw energy to the head and brow center (spinal breathing, meditation, kechari, sambhavi, etc.) --- in my experience, it is stirring up the energetic concentrations at both ends of the body -- and then re-training the body that the energy should go up and stay in, rather than go down and squirt out.
Hope that helps!
Peace, Namaste & Good ....... Practicing!
Kirtanman
PS --- I think this *was* my Tantra post. I tend to do that ...
