Sparkle
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Posted - Jul 15 2006 : 2:15:29 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Topic Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Message Delete Topic
Reflecting on what has been said here I would like to discuss Sadhak's idea of incorporating some outward healing in the Sunday Gobal Meditations.
As discussed, the way to do this, in keeping with AYP principles, is to do a samyama healing. This presents the problem however that some people here would not yet be doing samyama and might be tempted to jump into it prematurely in order to take part in the healing.
As this would be an experiment we could, as a group, do the samyama healing on one person here and then get feedback from that person on what, if any, effects they felt. It could be done on a different person each week.
This, in effect, would add an extra 30 seconds onto normal samyama. All that would be required is to say the persons name in ones mind and then release it into the silence, after 15 seconds do this again.
If this idea was approved and adopted by people then it would be important to note the following:
1. That a person who does not currently have regular samyama incorporated into their normal practice - should not jump into doing samyama so that they can partake in the healing.
2. The recipient of samyama healing does not have to practice samyama.
What do people think ?
Namaste
Louis
Note: Please look at the topics Global Group Meditation, for further information on the AYP global group meditation and Global Group Samyama Healing for more details on group samyama. To be added to the samyama healing list please post a reply here or contact our support team.
The Samyama Healing List is here:
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....OPIC_ID=1565Edited by - n/a on Jul 15 2006 7:31:56 PM
Shanti
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Wolfgang
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quote:
Originally posted by emc
Hm. I thought I would end up as the last one on the list when I asked to be on the samyama healing list and therefore didn't expect to be the recipient until a few months... I see now that I seem to have been the object for healing last Sunday. Ooops. That was quick. I totally missed it since I was at a course doing "The Work" then, but I figure your attention helps me anyway, so thanks a lot! I'm just a little disappointed that I couldn't join the group meditation and see what happened in the ether...
Hi emc,
not to worry ! All the energy is stored up and available at your disposal
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gentlep
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I don't know much about samyama healing but will this work on a 2 and half year old baby. My daughter got some unknown neurological condition starting at age one where she is slowly losing her physical abilities. Currently she can't even sit or move her limbs. All medical tests were negative. I went to India last month to try an ayurvedic treatment. Since then she is eating well. Before that she wasn't able swallow either.
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Jul 05 2007 : 1:26:51 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Worth a try, what's her name gentlep, she can have my spot.
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gentlep
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Posted - Jul 05 2007 : 1:29:24 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Thanks Anthem11. Her name is Hamsa. Born on 1/22/2005.
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Anthem
Canada
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Hi Shanti, Please replace my name on the healing recipient list with Hamsa. Can you include her bithdate too?
thanks
A
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 1:54:02 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi Gentlep,
Thank you for asking.
Yes I will include Hamsa's name and age/birthdate to our Samyama healing list.
I can do it two ways..
1. Include her in as an emergency recipient and she will be a recipient along with Brett this Sunday.. after which her name will appear after Bret's name in the list and will receive healing after about 3 months again when her name comes up.
2. New recipients to the list are added 3rd from the top. Depending on when I add it in, she will be either after Kirtanman or after Nicole.
Let me know which one will work better for you. I am open to either.
My prayers are with Hamsam.
Thank you again.
-Shanti.
Hi Andrew,
Is there a reason you want me to replace your name with Hamsa's.
I mean do you want your name off the list?
Humsa will be added 3rd from the top of the list as we do with all new names.
Edited by - Shanti on Jul 06 2007 1:56:15 PM
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 2:00:03 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Not at all, just wanted to make sure she got in earlier rather than later.
On another note, I'm not sure everyone on the list is still active here at AYP, can we do a "roll call" check in of some kind at some point, to see if people still want to be included?
thanks
A
Edited by - Anthem on Jul 06 2007 2:02:31 PM
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 2:01:05 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Anthem11
Not at all, just wanted to make sure she got in earlier rather than later.
On another note, I'm not sure everyone on the list is still active here at AYP, can we do a "roll call" check in of some kind at some point, to see if people still want to be included?
thanks
A
Thanks Andrew.
And most people who are not active do get reminder emails from me when their names come up.. and I make sure they still want to be on the list. I have that covered Andrew. Thanks again.
Edited by - Shanti on Jul 06 2007 2:07:33 PM
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 2:14:25 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
That's great organization Shweta, thanks for all your efforts with this on our behalf!
A
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gentlep
USA
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Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 2:23:23 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Shanti
Hi Gentlep,
Thank you for asking.
Yes I will include Hamsa's name and age/birthdate to our Samyama healing list.
I can do it two ways..
1. Include her in as an emergency recipient and she will be a recipient along with Brett this Sunday.. after which her name will appear after Bret's name in the list and will receive healing after about 3 months again when her name comes up.
Thanks Shanti. If it's possible to do it this Sunday, that would be better. I any relief possible in anyway for the little girl it better be sooner than later. Thanks again.
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 2:40:15 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by gentlep
Thanks Shanti. If it's possible to do it this Sunday, that would be better. I any relief possible in anyway for the little girl it better be sooner than later. Thanks again.
Hi Gentlep,
I have added Hamsa's name to the list for this Sunday.
Hi All,
We have a request for an emergency samyama healing for Hamsa who is 2 years old. So in addition to Brett please include Hamsa.Thank you all.
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....page=8#23834http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....page=8#23838quote:
Originally posted by gentlep
I don't know much about samyama healing but will this work on a 2 and half year old baby. My daughter got some unknown neurological condition starting at age one where she is slowly losing her physical abilities. Currently she can't even sit or move her limbs. All medical tests were negative. I went to India last month to try an ayurvedic treatment. Since then she is eating well. Before that she wasn't able swallow either.
Edited by - Shanti on Jul 06 2007 2:45:54 PM
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yogibear
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Hi Shanti,
I would like to be added to the list, too. I will join in as often as I can, as well.
Thanks much, yb.
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Shanti
USA
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quote:
Originally posted by yogibear
Hi Shanti,
I would like to be added to the list, too. I will join in as often as I can, as well.
Thanks much, yb.
Hi YB,
Thank you for joining us.
You will be up for group healing on August 26 2007.
Looking forward to having you join us (whenever possible). And just in case you are not familiar with what we do, you can read up morehere.
Welcome and thank you again.
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Aug 10 2007 : 08:48:12 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi All,
We have a request for healing for Chenelle who is experiencing some health issues.
So in addition to Scott please include Chenelle in your samyama healing on Sunday 08/12/07
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clk1710
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Posted - Aug 19 2007 : 12:06:07 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
thanks everyone for all your healing wishes today! i felt all this warm energy and openness around my heart the whole time. i've never been part of any prayer circle in the past so this was a first and i felt so yummy inside knowing so much love was being sent my way thank you again everyone! i'm so grateful to be a part of this group
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Richard
United Kingdom
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Posted - Aug 19 2007 : 4:16:08 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Your welcome clk global med always feels warm and different even when you are not the recipient.. do join us every week if you can
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clk1710
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thanks richard. that's something i don't understand- is there an explanation for feeling warm energy in your heart area? what actually is happening? i've only felt that warm energy in the heart feeling maybe two other times but i wasn't meditating. global meditation is totally new to me and i guess i assumed i was imagining it all. can our bodies really sense when there are others meditating at the same time or when others are praying for us? perhaps this is a rhetorical question because i know the answer is yes but i just don't understand how it all happens and its weird for this whole day i've felt the energy around the heart and an openness and sensitivity
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Richard
United Kingdom
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quote:
can our bodies really sense when there are others meditating at the same time or when others are praying for us? perhaps this is a rhetorical question because i know the answer is yes but i just don't understand how it all happens and its weird for this whole day i've felt the energy around the heart and an openness and sensitivity
We are all connected clk...all part of the one. You are doing great to have begun experiencing this.
We are nothing more than points of consciousness in the great sea of consciousness and as inner silence arises within us and we begin to sense this it only takes intent to connect with others.
Don't look for or expect these experiences and they will happen.
The one is in the many and the many are in the one.
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Aug 20 2007 : 09:09:46 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Your experience with healing and global meditation was beautiful. Thank you for sharing that with us CLK.
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Sep 08 2007 : 6:35:58 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Thanks Shweta, looking forward to the group healing tomorrow.
A
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Anthem
Canada
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Thanks to everyone for joining in to the group meditation today and for the healing samayama.
A
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atena
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Posted - Oct 19 2007 : 09:55:56 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit atena's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Could you add me to the Samyama Healing Recipient List?
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Eitherway
USA
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Posted - Oct 19 2007 : 2:43:20 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Eitherway's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi! I would like to be added to the samyama group healing list.
I have read most of the posts but please clarify a couple of things. I work on Sunday's so I will not be able to join the group meditation ( should be able to join in January or so ) or be able to sit without distraction during this time. Is this a concern?
Also, when you guys participate in the group meditation, is it in addition to the 2x per day or are we to count it as one of the periods?
Thanks, God bless all. Love and light, eitherway
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Oct 19 2007 : 5:08:00 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by atena
Could you add me to the Samyama Healing Recipient List?
Hi Atena,
You will be up for the group healing on 11/04/07 (mm/dd/yy).
Thank you for joining us.
Edited by - Shanti on Oct 19 2007 5:34:06 PM
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Shanti
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Posted - Oct 19 2007 : 5:28:31 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Eitherway
Hi! I would like to be added to the samyama group healing list.
Hi Eitherway,
You will be up for the group healing on 11/11/07 (mm/dd/yy).
quote:
Originally posted by Eitherway
I work on Sunday's so I will not be able to join the group meditation ( should be able to join in January or so ) or be able to sit without distraction during this time. Is this a concern?
No.. I think you will be fine.. it is the intent that counts... Being in silence helps feeling/focusing on energy.. but even if you don't feel anything.. the samyama healing will do what it needs to do.. even when you are busy. So are you OK with Nov 11th then?
quote:
Originally posted by Eitherway
Also, when you guys participate in the group meditation, is it in addition to the 2x per day or are we to count it as one of the periods?
Some do, some don't. Its your choice. If you think doing 2 normal sessions along with the group one is OK for you go ahead.. if not.. make this one, one of the two you do during the day.
Here is what Yogani had to say...
quote:
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....hpage=3#9206quote:
In lesson#37 Yogani says..
Group meditations are not a substitute for your regular twice-daily
meditations. Your individual practice is your primary practice, and
should always be. This keeps your spiritual destiny in your hands, in
your daily practice, regardless of other circumstances. Groups come
and go. Group meditations can be a wonderful boost, but they will
come and go too. Don't rely on them as core practice. Think of them
as bonuses. Life is always changing on the outside. Be sure that your
daily practice is ingrained as an inside aspect of your life, not
subject to being waylaid by outer events.
The intent in the above lesson was to discourage folks from relying on group meditations as a primary source of practice, which some of us might tend to do. Much more important is to have our home routine well-established and be self-sufficient in that. Then whatever else comes along in the way of group meditations, etc., we can regard as a bonus.
When preparing the lesson, I was not thinking of worldwide long-distance meditations, or their potential power for wide-scale purification and opening. In this case (or any powerful group meditation situation), it is incumbent on all of us to keep self-pacing in mind, as needed, whether the group meditation happens to be during our regular routine of practice, or in addition to it. It can be done either way. Each should weigh the results and make adjustments accordingly, as I see many of you are doing already.
Smart self-pacers, you are.
The world meditations are a wonderful new program, with very promising long term potential.
Gee, how many thousands can join in, and what will be the long term effect on world consciousness? Let's find out...
The guru is in you.
Thank you for joining us.
Edited by - Shanti on Oct 19 2007 5:34:35 PM
Posted - Jul 15 2006 : 2:51:01 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
COUNT ME IN..
Edited by - Shanti on Jul 15 2006 3:47:40 PM
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Sparkle
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Posted - Jul 15 2006 : 6:48:59 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Great Shweta, thanks for the support.
All we need now is a volunteer to receive the first healing.
Anyone else want to join in the healing samyama in the Group meditation on Sunday.
Edited by - Sparkle on Jul 15 2006 7:14:44 PM
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Jul 15 2006 : 11:50:10 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Great initiative Louis! Count me in too!
If no one volunteers with something important, you can use me as a last resort, nothing serious, but I do happen to have a little strain on the right side of my neck over the last couple of days!
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Victor
USA
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Posted - Jul 16 2006 : 12:23:39 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
I would like to volunteer Sarah since she has been feeling sick this week and has been doing the AYP practice for about 6 months but does not do samyama yet. Though she is new to the forum she has been with our sunday groups the last two weeks so is ready to try.
Edited by - Victor on Jul 16 2006 12:26:08 AM
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Scott
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Posted - Jul 16 2006 : 01:22:19 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Scott's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Sarah seems like a prime candidate!
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Jul 16 2006 : 04:55:47 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Ok we will go with Sarah
See you there
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Jul 16 2006 : 09:10:25 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Much better, I was hoping we would find something meaningful, Sarah get ready!
ps- Friendly reminder for everyone to start the mantra part of your practices at 15 minutes past the hour in your respective time zone, i.e. 11:15am EST and 8:15am PST etc.
Edited by - Anthem on Jul 16 2006 09:19:54 AM
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Shanti
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Posted - Jul 16 2006 : 10:16:52 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
So after we are done with our routine.. we pick Sarah's name (in our mind) for 10-15 secs and drop it into our silence for about 45 secs and do it again.. Right???
I am sorry to hear you are not doing too well Sarah. Hope you feel better soon.
Edited by - Shanti on Jul 16 2006 10:31:37 AM
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Jul 16 2006 : 1:03:43 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Delighted to hear that Sarah, hope things go well for you.
Louis
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Jul 16 2006 : 1:30:34 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Louis,
This was a great idea. Thank you.
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Jul 16 2006 : 5:27:45 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Thanks Shweta
As you know it is a collective effort by everyone involved, initiated by Sadhaks post and taken from there. The already established group meditations is the perfect vehicle to marry this with and your masterful efforts to establish these are very much appreciated also.
As Yogani has posted elsewhere, the healing samyama idea is not new and we should hear more about it in the future.
I find this whole development fascinating and hope it will continue and grow.
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sadhak
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Howzzat! This is great initiative Sparkle... I missed this, coz wasn't on net... Just read the feedback too. Not that I really missed it, because I haven't begun Samyama yet.
We all are on glide mode... the group. something is growing here. And it looks wonderful.
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Sparkle
Ireland
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If anyone is feeling under the weather and would like to volunteer themselves for the samyama healing tomorrow in the Group Meditation, then please let us know.
Thanks
Louis
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Shanti
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Posted - Jul 22 2006 : 2:43:46 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
If no one else volunteers, I would like to suggest Richard.
Thanks.
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Jul 23 2006 : 06:19:05 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Ok we will go with Richard as being the recipient of the samyama healing today.
Look forward to meeting you all there.
Namaste
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Richard
United Kingdom
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Thanks Shweta and everyone.
see you there
Richard
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Babaly
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Posted - Jul 23 2006 : 3:06:38 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Babaly's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
That was wonderful today everyone.... i truly had a great meditation. Hope you felt all the love Richard:-)
Babaly
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Richard
United Kingdom
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A beautiful meditation session. After my Samyama I entered a lovely area of inner silence this experiment is wonderful its a totally different experience being the recipient, there was a realisation that it is the beginning of a melding of minds that we are experiencing here, wonderful thank you.
In my opinion every one in this group should have the chance to experience this. How about Shweta next week.
Yes I did feel the love
Blessings Richard
Edited by - Richard on Jul 23 2006 3:32:00 PM
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Shanti
USA
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Thanks for suggesting my name Richard. However, I think Andrew should be next.. if that is OK with you Andrew.
The following is just an idea... if people agree with this... esp. you Louis.. we could incorporate this.. We don't have to do this.. but I think this way people don't have to feel shy about asking for healing... and we don't have to ask every week who wants to volunteer next.. Again THIS IS JUST AN PLAN.. we don't have to do it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is what I was thinking.. and Louis you don't have to agree with this.
Let's go alphabetically and assign dates to each person.
This way, each one knows, which weekend they are going to be the recipient.. and can keep themselves available for that day.
Few things to keep in mind.... correct me if I am wrong...
1- You DON'T have to be a part of the meditation group to be a recipient of the Shamyama healing.
2- You DON'T have to be participating in the group sending Shamyama healing in order to receive healing.
3- If you are On the LIST and don't want to receive healing.. let us know, and we will take you off the list...
4-This list will be changeable for 2 weeks.. then new participants will be added to the end of the list.
5-I think I have everyone who has announced themselves to be a part of the mediation group, in the list below... If I have missed anyone.. please forgive me.. Also, some have not announced themselves... if you would still like to be a part of the healing list.. please do let us know.. we will add you to the list.
6-If for any reason you will not be available on the date below.. let us know and someone could switch days with you.
7-If there is an emergency request... not sure how you want to handle it... replace the person scheduled for that day or do healing for 2 people on the same day?
Dates are in the month/day/year format.
Andrew---- 07/30/06
Babaly----- 08/06/06
David------ 08/13/06
Elldibor---- 08/20/06
Ether------ 08/27/06
Jim-------- 09/03/06
Katrine---- 09/10/06
Louis------ 09/17/06
Meg------- 09/24/06
Near------ 10/01/06
Richard---- 07/23/06***
Sadhak---- 10/08/06
Sarah------ 07/16/06***
Shweta---- 10/15/06
Victor------ 10/22/06
Wolfgang--- 10/29/06
Edited by - Shanti on Jul 28 2006 3:37:06 PM
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Richard
United Kingdom
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That's an excellent idea Shweta I'm all for it
Richard
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Wolfgang
Germany
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Wow, I am on the list !
I probably would never have asked for myself to be healed.
Well, I don't feel sick or feel in need to receive healing,
actually I feel quite healthy at the moment.
But I am looking forward anyway to these group meditations.
I probably have to watch out not to get an energy overload !
As for the question what to do in case of an emergency,
my feeling is to have 2 people on the list in such a case.
I am sure we have enough energy for 2 people:
the universe has enough energy in store !
regards
Wolfgang
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Jul 28 2006 : 2:59:43 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Richard said :
After my Samyama I entered a lovely area of inner silence this experiment is wonderful its a totally different experience being the recipient, there was a realisation that it is the beginning of a melding of minds that we are experiencing here, wonderful thank you.
In my opinion every one in this group should have the chance to experience this.
Hi Wolfgang,
The healing does not have to be only if you are sick. I don't know of a single soul.. except for the enlightened ones maybe.. who could not use some loving healing for the lifetimes of hurt and pain they have collected. I agree with what Richard has said, and that is why I thought maybe we should all have a chance to experience this... although I doubt I will feel anything..
We will still have to wait for most people to agree on this.. but I guess you are OK with it, right?
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Scott
USA
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Wow, Shweta, thank you for thinking of me! I wouldn't have thought I'd be on the list. You are great. It's best that you take me off of it, though. With what I'm doing, it could damage me instead of heal me. Thanks again for thinking of me...it means a LOT to me.
-Scott
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Jul 28 2006 : 3:37:48 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Done Scott.
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Jul 28 2006 : 7:02:26 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Thank you everyone, I'm lucky my name starts with "A", I look forward to it!
Aim for my upper middle back spinal nerve area, I have a blockage there that could use a little clearing!
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sadhak
India
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Posted - Jul 28 2006 : 9:15:22 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit sadhak's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Brill idea Shanti! And two people on an emergency sounds pretty handleable. This can get us feedback on how this works when one is feeling specifically 'sick', 'unwell' or 'in pain', or is feeling 'normal'. Both. But as you say, except the sainted saints, all of us have our store of blockages.
It would be nice if the 'energised' or 'healed' ones reported here on any lasting changes, or lack of any. It could even be felt over the week instead of the same day. Maybe the feedback could lead us to alter or modify our approach in times to come.
I'm fine with being on the list.
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Wolfgang
Germany
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Posted - Jul 29 2006 : 03:37:18 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Wolfgang's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Shanti
We will still have to wait for most people to agree on this.. but I guess you are OK with it, right?
Yep, count me in !
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Jul 29 2006 : 11:41:26 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Great idea Shweta on the list.
Scott raises a good point about concerns about how the samyama healing might affect him.
If anyone feels they are on the edge of all they can handle, from a self pacing point of view, then it might be prudent to be cautious.
On the other hand if they are experienced and willing to take that risk the feedback would be very valuable.
To my mind it is very important that people stick to the proper way of doing samyama as described by Yogani in
http://www.aypsite.org/150.htmlIt would probably be agood idea if everyone re-read this lesson. In particular the part that says
"In your easy silence, pick up, just once, the fuzziest feeling of the
word "Love" in your own language. Don't deliberately make a clear
pronunciation, or mental images of this or that scene or situation
that represent Love to you. Just have a faint remembrance of Love,
and then let go into your silence, the easy silence you are in as you
pick up the faint meaning of Love. Don't contemplate Love or analyze
it during samyama. Don't think about it at all. Just come to it once
in a faint, subtle way, and then let go into silence. It is a subtle
feeling of Love we are coming to, nothing more, and letting it go.
Like that.
Having thought "Love" once, be in silence for about fifteen seconds.
If any thoughts come, let them go easily. Don't look at the clock.
With a little practice your inner clock will tell you with good
enough accuracy when fifteen seconds is up. Just be easy in silence
for about a quarter of a minute. Then pick up the faint, fuzzy
meaning of "Love" again, and let it go again into your silence for
about fifteen seconds again.
That is two repetitions of samyama ? twice picking up Love at its
subtlest level of thought, and twice letting it go into inner
silence."
The word love is replaced by the name of the recipient. With Andrew we could possibly say, at Andrews request "Andrew and his upper middle back" in a faint and fuzzy and just let go into silence.
The importance of doing this correctly is vital. It means the samyama is a very pure form of prayer that is safe both for the receiver and the giver. There is no manipulation of energies, just simply surrendering the intention into inner silence and let happen what is meant to happen. The intelligence of the inner silence will take care of it, we don't get involved in any actual healing.
Hope this helps
Louis
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Jul 29 2006 : 12:47:59 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
It means the samyama is a very pure form of prayer that is safe both for the receiver and the giver. There is no manipulation of energies, just simply surrendering the intention into inner silence and let happen what is meant to happen. The intelligence of the inner silence will take care of it, we don't get involved in any actual healing.
Thanks Louis.. this really does help.
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yogaguy
USA
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I would be interested in knowing what qualifies someone to be capable of healing through samayama. Many people can meditate to some degree through whatever techniques but what penicle must be reached in order to effectively heal through samayama? Do you need to have accomplished out of body experiences by merging into the emptyness that lies in the fifth level of absorption according to buddhist tradition "astral projection" or is some one who is cable of passing the pranic sheath phase and entering into a deep state of realease "pratahara" enough? samayama is to become one with the object of meditation! So far I have only viserly achieved that in my own body through chakra awareness and kundalini experience. Do I need to be somewhat enlightened at the time I try to heal some one such as the state achieved after raising kundalini awareness in my own body?
Sincerely, Yogaguy
I truly would like to learn how to heal some one else using spiritual energy only.
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Jul 30 2006 : 09:40:06 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi yogaguy
You are obviously an experienced at meditation and this is very helpful. You will need to work through the main lessons using Yogani's very clear and concise instructions and eventually you will come to the practice of samyama.
It may be more appropriate to call it samyama prayer but that's another story.
Hope this helps
Louis
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Scott
USA
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Posted - Jul 30 2006 : 11:16:45 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Scott's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
From my experience....
The samyama here puts you in a state of whatever you're samyama-ing. If you say "health" and drop it, as the lessons say to do, then you should be in a powerful state of health. You get the vibe of whatever word you use.
If that made ANY sense.
Then, apparently, if you think of a person, your state of being is transmitted to them. They get the effects of the 9 affirmations. I'm not absolutely sure if it works, but it's worth a shot.
I think it helps if you bring to mind your feeling of a person, instead of their name or anything else. Just the raw feeling.
If that even makes any sense. I'm horrible at describing what I mean...sorry.
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Anthem
Canada
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Thank you everyone for this healing blessing. I felt and still feel a very gentle and loving energy and I am very grateful. Peace and love to everyone.
Anthem11
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Babaly
USA
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Thanks Shanti for putting me on the list... I could use the help to be honest.... I've had a very very full and busy month with work and I'm feeling exhausted. I finish my schedule on the 4th.... so.. perfect timing.
I look forward to the 6th.... in the meantime...
love and light to all
Babaly
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Wolfgang
Germany
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I will be off for holidays to Portugal till end of August.
So I don't know if I have a chance to participate here in the forum.
But I definitely won't forget our sunday meetings !
take care
Wolfgang
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Jul 31 2006 : 12:08:16 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Enjoy your holidays Wolfgang..
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 05:03:46 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
See you at 4.15 Dublin time
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riptiz
United Kingdom
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Hi,
If you are healing others in this way it is enough to have the simple intent and they will receive the healing.Actually you can program your intent by simply stating to yourself the way in which you want things to happen.If you simply ask God or whomever you wish that the person receives for their highest good or simply love then you take yourself out of the equation and open the person up to the pure intent and energies.If you take note at other times you may notice that when you think of another that you feel energy movement even when not in meditation.You are simply making an energetic connection and the energy is flowing between you.
L&L
Dave
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 10:18:06 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Looking forward to the group meditation today, starting in less than 1 hour now (11:15am Est). Babaly get ready!
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trip1
USA
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 10:53:41 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit trip1's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Will be joining in for the first time today... Can't wait.
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 10:57:44 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Glad you will join us Brett.
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Manipura
USA
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Posted - Aug 06 2006 : 12:16:50 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Manipura's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
You east coast people are a little too chipper on Sunday mornings. 8:15 indeed....the birds aren't even up yet out here. I slid in about 10 min. too late, but caught up with you during samyama. Back to bed......
O <------ (incoherent little face with dark circles under eyes and messed up hair) (and definitely no make-up)
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Babaly
USA
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Posted - Aug 07 2006 : 6:32:28 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Babaly's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Thanks everyone..... it really helped:-)
Babaly
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Aug 07 2006 : 7:55:42 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi Brett,
I hope your first meditation session with us was good Would you like to be a part of our Shamyama healing recipient list. If yes, let us know.. we will put your name on it.
Thanks again for joining us on Sunday.
Edited by - Shanti on Aug 07 2006 7:57:46 PM
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trip1
USA
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Hi Shweta,
Yes I enjoyed it quite much. Thank you for bringing this wonderful idea to fruition.
I would be honored to be part of the Shamyama healing recipient list.
Looking forward to next week.
Namaste,
Brett
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Aug 08 2006 : 08:17:12 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
"Shamyama Healing" - recipient list.
Dates are in the month/day/year format.
Andrew---- 07/30/06 ***
Babaly----- 08/06/06***
David------ 08/13/06
Elldibor---- 08/20/06
Ether------ 08/27/06
Jim-------- 09/03/06
Katrine---- 09/10/06
Louis------ 09/17/06
Meg------- 09/24/06
Near------ 10/01/06
Richard---- 07/23/06***
Sadhak---- 0/08/06
Sarah------07/16/06***
Shweta----10/15/06
Victor------10/22/06
Wolfgang---10/29/06
Brett------ 11/05/06
Nicole----- 11/12/06
Edited by - Shanti on Aug 08 2006 3:14:22 PM
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Aug 08 2006 : 08:20:48 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Shanti's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi All,
If there is anyone else who whould like to be on this list please do let us know. You don't have to be a part of the Meditation group in order to receive Shamyama healing.
Thanks...
Hi Brett,
You are on the list now.. for Nov 5th.
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Nicole
USA
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Hello,
What a great idea! I would love to be apart of both the meditation group and the samyama healing list. Sign me up
Nicole
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Shanti
USA
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quote:
Originally posted by Nicole
Hello,
What a great idea! I would love to be apart of both the meditation group and the samyama healing list. Sign me up
Nicole
Hi Nicole,
We would love to have you with us during our weekly meditation. Not sure where you are from but you could either look here to see if you can figure out what would be your local time. Or go to this website
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock then either calculate the time difference between NY and your city/country... and then add/subtract it from 11.15 am.
Or go to
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclo...nverter.html enter your city/country and USA/ New York City/NY and enter 11.15 am for NY time.
This should give you your local time. We start our Mantra Meditation at 11.15 am NY time. If I have confused you, let me know and I will figure the time out for you..
See you on Sunday.
You are on the Shamyama Healing recipient list for Nov 12th.
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Nicole
USA
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Posted - Aug 09 2006 : 4:51:25 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Nicole's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Shanti,
Thank you so much, you didn't have to go to all the trouble though hehe I am in Florida... but thanks
I will start with all of you at 11:15 AM on Sunday.
Thanks for adding me to the healing list, how fun!
Edited by - Nicole on Aug 09 2006 4:59:54 PM
Maximus
India
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I appreciate the tendency of you people to reach out and help others. But I do have doubts about the group samyama technique for healing. I do believe in the connectedness of all minds at a deeper level and that one's thoughts can reach out to others. But how do you direct your thought? You people are all 'cyber friends' and I don't think you even know each other's face let alone knowing personally. Cyber personality is an illusion and is completely different from the real personality. Without knowing the person at all how can you make your thoughts reach them? If you people were to group meditate for me, the goodness of your efforts are more likely to reach Russelle Crowe and not me (I'm ofcourse referring to Maximus character in Gladiator movie).
Are you people with me?
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Anthem
Canada
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Posted - Aug 10 2006 : 09:33:06 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi Maximus,
Whether we believe it or not we are all one. The intent to heal is all that is needed.
A
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Maximus
India
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Posted - Aug 10 2006 : 11:08:19 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Maximus's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Intent to heal 'whom'?
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Richard
United Kingdom
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Posted - Aug 10 2006 : 7:39:06 PM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Maximus
I appreciate the tendency of you people to reach out and help others. But I do have doubts about the group samyama technique for healing. I do believe in the connectedness of all minds at a deeper level and that one's thoughts can reach out to others. But how do you direct your thought? You people are all 'cyber friends' and I don't think you even know each other's face let alone knowing personally. Cyber personality is an illusion and is completely different from the real personality.
HI maximus I totally disagree with you on this, this forum has been running a long time some of us have been on hare well over two years and by the way some people have met up. keeping false cyber personalities up that long and still relating to each other deeply the way we do would not have been possible I think you should go back all the way to the beginning and read a lot of the posts. You may change your mind.
Richard
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Maximus
India
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Posted - Aug 11 2006 : 02:31:06 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Maximus's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Then it makes sense.
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Manipura
USA
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Maximus - I understand your point, and am glad that you make it, b'c now I feel better about stating mine. Mind you, it doesn't keep me up at night, but it crops up here and there, usually on Sun. mornings, and it is that we who have been with AYP for a while all "know" each other (or so we think), and are pretty nice folks (or so we think), and we might hesitate to report back after a samyama healing session that, for instance, "I felt nothing, neither twinge nor jab, and am sicker than ever." And so on. Too much politeness, in other words. So what I would like to see is someone who either has no emotional connection to AYP, or else who despises the whole lot of us, come forward and volunteer for a healing, with the promise that he or she will report back with complete honesty the results of their experience. Any volunteers?
And then of course the next question is, Does it matter if there are no immediate results? Isn't optimism itself a virtue, if not a healing agent?
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sadhak
India
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Posted - Aug 12 2006 : 1:26:38 PM Show Profile Email Poster Visit sadhak's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Hi Meg,
I agree we are a polite lot here... but I think I've come across sufficient candidness. I, for instance, cannot think of hesitating even a little before bluntly saying exactly what I felt. I have no reason to, you get me... I don't have to hate anyone here for that. On the contrary, meeting the way we do, cyberly, keeps the objectivity more or less intact. I assure you, I will say it as it is when I am on the receiving end of the samyama effort. and, I believe, so will you.
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Babaly
USA
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Interesting conversation here.
My thoughts on the matter are these:
When we are in Samyama, presumably for most of us, we have already been meditating for a while - for most maybe 20 mins let's say.
At that time many of us are connected with our 'true Self' state.
My understanding is that all of our 'true Selves' are one and the same - the Divine Self.
So consequently, as that Divine Self is this vast river of intelligence and pulsating love that knows all and is all - I think the Divine Self can figure out where and to whom the energy is to go.
Just some feedback, which I wasn't going to give yet but I feel would be helpful here, for years I have had a challenging time with spinal breathing. My energy would often jump ship and go down the front of my body instead of my spine.... I could feel blockages - 2 major ones along my spine. I started spinal breathing back in 1996? somewhere around there.... anyway, since I had my healing last week - my spinal breathing is smooth - I can feel all of my spinal cord and can see parts of the inside of my spine as well.
I thought .... well maybe it was some karma I burnt off doing all the work I did with teens over the last month.... but I would have to say I feel it's the healing. That Saturday before the healing I couldn't do my whole spine....that Sunday night I could.
I wanted to wait to tell you because I was afraid it might be a phase... but it's been a week now... and it's just getting stronger.
Thanks to you all:-)and you know who you are?:-)
Babaly xx
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Aug 14 2006 : 04:16:51 AM Show Profile Email Poster Visit Sparkle's Homepage Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
That's great news Babaly
I think regardless of "how it works" it would probably be a good idea to introduce a more scientific format for recording the findings of the samyama healings/blessings/prayers.
For instance we don't know how many are participating each Sunday and who they are,
and as has been stated above, we are not getting proper feedback from everyone.
If anyone has any ideas on how to do this in a manageable way, it would be helpful.
Louis
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Katrine<b
