Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Aug 09 2018 : 5:49:51 PM
Will this really happen? because before the problems appeared I was exceptionally well. with an absolute mental power.
BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
1486 Posts
Posted - Aug 10 2018 : 01:39:04 AM
It's hard to improve on the absolute.
What I can say is that people report improved mental abilities as a result of consistent meditation practice.
Blanche
USA
555 Posts
Posted - Aug 10 2018 : 06:08:41 AM
Hi Delfos,
You are going through a process of transformation. At the end, you will find yourself at another level, in another state of equilibrium. It will be different than the one you had before all this started to happen. It took you time to get here, it took time to start getting spasms, so it is normal to take some time to get better. From time to time you might still have spasms, and this is normal. Things take time to change.
The fact that your attention is different shows that this transformation involves not only the body, but also the mind. You are changing like a caterpillar becoming a butterfly! Something to keep in mind: The AYP lessons are verified by the experience of hundreds of practitioners. Most of them go through this transformation without a lot of difficulties. You may want to read the lessons and learn the practices gradually, for a easier journey.
Best wishes.
Christi
United Kingdom
3541 Posts
Posted - Aug 10 2018 : 06:48:01 AM
Hi Delfos,
You have received very good advice from others already.
Spasms are a symptom of kundalini that some people experience from time-to-time. As you mentioned, it often only happens when the attention becomes focussed, so avoiding this can prevent the spasms from happening, or can make them happen less.
Gradually, over time, the spasms will turn into a trembling sensation in the body and from there will turn into a light vibration. At some point they will become ecstatic and very pleasurable. The ecstasy will often be localised at first, but will gradually expand to include the whole body and will expand from there beyond the body. Other transformations will take place as well as the process unfolds.
Just to mention, the meditation technique that you described, where the attention is moved around the body, is not necessarily a safe one and people do often experience issues with it, such as the issue you are describing here. It could be advisable not to go back to that. There are much safer forms of meditation. In general, a full-scope yoga practice which incorporates all eight-limbs, is the safest and easiest path to follow.
Be patient with yourself and take the time needed to integrate what has happened in the past and move forwards from there.
It will be alright!
Christi
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Aug 11 2018 : 7:40:13 PM
I'm having these tremors described by Christi. Only I have a doubt:
I was meditating, and suddenly my feet began to shake, spreading all over my leg. I at first stopped the mantra, and began to pay attention to my leg. But later the question came to me: should I stop or not with the mantra?
I mean, what am I supposed to do in this situation? Stop with the mantra and watch the movement, or ignore it and continue meditation?
yo_gi
Germany
42 Posts
Posted - Aug 12 2018 : 02:39:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Delfos
what am I supposed to do in this situation? Stop with the mantra and watch the movement, or ignore it and continue meditation?
https://www.aypsite.com/15.htmlThere you find the appropriate method how to deal with those kind of situations...
Here is an excerpt from this lesson:
*Sometimes physical discomfort can happen during meditation. This is usually a symptom of the release of obstructions in the nervous system. If it interferes with the easy process of meditation, then pause with the mantra and allow the attention to be drawn to the physical discomfort. Just be with it for a while. Usually, this will dissolve the discomfort naturally. Once it does, go back to the mantra and continue your meditation until your time is up. Count the time you spent with your attention on the physical discomfort as part of your meditation time. If the sensation does not dissolve, lie down for while, until the sensation subsides. It is a good thing. A big obstruction is going. Let it go easily, naturally. The same procedure applies if you are overcome with a barrage of overbearing thoughts, which may or may not be accompanied by physical sensations. If you can't easily go back to the mantra, just be with the thoughts until they dissipate enough so you can easily pick up the mantra again. Remember, meditation is not a fight with physical or mental activity we may have. These are all symptoms of the release of obstructions from deep in the nervous system. We just let them go. Our job is to follow the easy procedure of thinking the mantra and allowing the process of inner cleansing to happen. This is not a war on the level of the conscious mind. You can never win it that way. We are working from the inside, within and beyond the subconscious mind. In order to do this we must allow the natural ability of the mind to take us in. So learn to think the mantra easily, and let it go in.*
All the best
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Aug 15 2018 : 8:00:18 PM
I was walking and suddenly I started reciting the mantra automatically in my mind. I interrupted when I realized. What I did is correct? is not clearly the mantra, but one of the ways in which it appears in my meditation.
The ayp method is good for those who have adhd?
I always had a vision, from meditation as a way of developing intelligence, the ayp method helps at that point?
Charliedog
1543 Posts
Posted - Aug 16 2018 : 06:12:12 AM
We practice two times a day deep meditation. We never use the mantra outside the practice. You were correct to stop it.
Those who have the diagnose ADHD and can have the discipline to practice daily will for sure benefit, this is because AYP calms the mind.
AYP is a methode to purify the whole system. With daily practice we remove the veils of ignorance. All becomes available, All is in us. Love, Wisdom and many more qualities.
If we practice daily, in time we develop the quality to focus, one pointed concentration (dharana). One of the benefits of dharana is, you can study without the mind continuously running from here to there while you are trying to concentrate.
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Sep 08 2018 : 1:19:14 PM
Have I completed 1 month of meditation for 10 minutes? Can I do it for 15 minutes now?
BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
1486 Posts
Posted - Sep 08 2018 : 3:27:35 PM
Hello Delfos
Good to hear from you.
That's great. Have you been doing 10 minutes once a day or 10 minutes twice a day?
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Sep 08 2018 : 6:15:47 PM
10 minutes twice a day
BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
1486 Posts
Posted - Sep 09 2018 : 01:48:51 AM Show Profile Email Poster Edit Reply Reply with Quote View user's IP address Get a Link to this Reply Delete Reply
Very good. You've got the regularity in your practice and 10 minutes in a good length session for somebody who has had sensitivity issues.
Tell us how you are feeling in day-to-day life. Have the spasms you mentioned before been bothering you in the last month?
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Sep 10 2018 : 10:30:22 AM
Okay, I'll continue meditating for 10 minutes.
The problem still continues, I can not pay attention due to spasms or altered breathing.
A silence has taken possession of me. A sense of emptiness rising inside my body. Things seem to be quieter, I feel it. Even once he had been trying to sleep in the bed and all this emptiness possessed me, I went into shock. But it only happened once, and I'm fine.
But what I am trying to do is relax and just continue with the meditation routine. I am confident that this will all improve one day and I will be able to pay attention without any adversity.
BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
1486 Posts
Posted - Sep 14 2018 : 10:40:12 AM
Hi Delfos
If I understand correctly, these spasms are preventing you for getting on with your daily activities, whether it's study or work, right?
If that is the case, then the yoga routine you are currently on is not sustainable. The advice is to switch to a milder form of meditation. Instead of mantra meditation, you can try using the breath as your meditation object. The procedure is the same - easily favour the sensation of your breath. Have a look at
Lesson 367 - Suggestions for Over-Sensitive Meditators If this form of meditation is still too much and your symptoms do not subside, then you need to spend some time just grounding, and no practice. That time will not be lost. You will be integrating the energy that has been stimulated by you past practice.
Take care and all the best.
Will Power
Spain
415 Posts
Posted - Sep 26 2018 : 03:56:26 AM
Hi Delfos,
Besides all the advice that you have received, I?d like to mention that there is an exercise called skeletal shaking that you can use to ground yourself, which will improve the circulation of energy in your body, which you need to ease the automatic movements. Don?t supress the automatic movements (unless you are in a place you feel you need to supress them, but then find a place where you can let your body move).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRIbHhvY64sLifting heavy weight also helps to ground.
BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
1486 Posts
Posted - Sep 26 2018 : 3:44:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Will Power
Lifting heavy weight also helps to ground.
It might for some people. Does not happen here - intense physical exercise, including weight lifting will hyke up the prana, so I have to self-pace my fitness routine when I experience kundalini overload.
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Nov 22 2018 : 7:24:36 PM
the problem I was making is that I was very forcing attention, and it was making the energy focus on my head all the time. I stopped it, went back to doing the meditation and everthing is right.
One thing that has happened to me now is that I feel a slight pain in the top of my head, sometimes it even gets worse. And I also have thoughts that make me scream, they are not bad thoughts, but they are thoughts in which I find myself in embarrassing situations. When I have them, I feel like screaming. Before, in the beginning, I had them and spoke mentally "NO". It has evolved and now I feel like screaming. I notice also that meche with my energy from the top of the head.
But that's it. I think I'm on the right track now. The error, which was giving the spasms, is that I was forcing my attention, and consequently forcing energy.
AnotherYogi
Ireland
6 Posts
Posted - Nov 24 2018 : 05:38:17 AM
Hi Delos,
I have been dealing with thoughts relating to embarrassing things also for the last few months. I feel to urge to shout out as well as well as thinking negative thoughts about myself "I'm so stupid" etc.
I believe that the practice brings up these unpleasant thoughts and feelings for a reason, so that we can develop a new and better relationship to parts of ourselves we do not want to feel. So I try be compassionate towards myself when I have these memories and thoughts and not to push them away. This is very hard thing to do! We can't only welcome the pleasant thoughts, feelings and sensations. When I have the urge to shout out or run away from these thoughts I remind myself its OK, I even say in my head "It's ok " and try to breath thought the unpleasantness.
With time it gets easier. Best of luck
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Feb 08 2019 : 6:49:24 PM
coming back here for more questions haha .
says that masturbation and sex life is important to appease kundalini energy, but how long can I stay without masturbating? should I masturbate daily, weekly, monthly ... how long?
thank you for the attention
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Feb 13 2019 : 10:19:45 AM
someone to answer me?
I'm divided. Science says that it is not good masturbation, and here it says that without marturbation or sex can worsen the state of kundalini.
Just wanted an average time anyway.
Dogboy
USA
1581 Posts
Posted - Feb 13 2019 : 12:25:52 PM
Hey Delphos
Having sex to ejacultaion should ease strong kundalini symptoms, just be cautious, having extended relations amps this energy up. Daily? Weekly? Monthly? Ask ten men, get ten answers. This decision should be based on your experience and libido. Here's a few of the free tantra lessons here on AYP, you might consider reading them all.
https://www.aypsite.com/T18.htmlhttps://www.aypsite.com/T9.htmlhttps://www.aypsite.com/T15.htmlEdited by - Dogboy on Feb 13 2019 12:30:17 PM
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - May 20 2019 : 6:05:21 PM
hello my friends, I'm back.
the spasms have turned to heartburn, I feel stomach burning. That's when I force attention, when I'm studying, watching classes, activities that demand attention.
I have some questions to ask:
1 - Does that mean any progress?
2 - When I have the symptoms, due to being paying attention, do I return in relation to kundalini? What I had integrated is lost and back to what I was before?
3 - Are there any estimates of when I will be normal, healthy, again?
Thanks for the attention, fellows.
BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
1486 Posts
Posted - May 22 2019 : 03:25:13 AM
Hello Delfos
quote:
Originally posted by Delfos
That's when I force attention, when I'm studying, watching classes, activities that demand attention.
This is a typical kundalini issue - any form of concentration intensifies the energy. You need to use any methods available to ground and reduce the energy.
quote:
Originally posted by Delfos
Does that mean any progress?
Yes, the energy has cleaned up (or partly cleaned up) an area, the symptoms there will stop or reduce, and you will begin to feel the purifying effects elsewhere. Nothing is lost, but you need to manage this process so that you can get on with your day to day life, whether this is work or study. So grounding and reducing any yoga practices to a sustainable level is what you need to be thinking of.
quote:
Originally posted by Delfos
Are there any estimates of when I will be normal, healthy, again?
I'm afraid there is no rule. It could be some months or some years. It's different from person to person. That's why the priority has to be on attaining some sort of stability. Blasting through with the practice may mean years of discomfort. You need to self-pace.
Delfos
Brazil
25 Posts
Posted - Jun 27 2019 : 2:48:32 PM
Lately, in my walks, I have had involuntary breaths, involuntary steps, blinking eyes. Nothing that disturbs me much and that prevents me from walking.
Sometimes I also feel like running, my steps speed up, and I just run, giving up.
Anyway, is all this normal? Thank you.
Dogboy
USA
1581 Posts
Posted - Jun 27 2019 : 7:41:52 PM
Automatic movements, mudras, bandas, asanas can be a byproduct of the process and quite normal.
Delfos
Brazil
27 Posts
Posted - Nov 23 2019 : 10:04:39 AM
Hello
So I'm feeling little electric shocks on various parts of the body. Wanted to know if this is part of the process?
I feel that I am also more sensitive to the effects of kundalini
Edited by - Delfos on Nov 23 2019 11:18:58 AM
Dogboy
USA
1711 Posts
Posted - Nov 23 2019 : 11:56:25 AM
If you have a dedicated practice, I would consider any unusual, temporary symptoms to be a result of purification. If symptoms become persistent, sharp in expression, or cause you concern, have it medically evaluated.
https://www.aypsite.com/plus/15.html#15.1. This lesson can enlighten you on finding relief in and outside of practice.
Delfos
Brazil
27 Posts
Posted - Nov 23 2019 : 2:01:58 PM
It is nothing very worrying and painful. It happens a lot when I'm using an electronic device (notebook, smartphone ...).
It happened after I forced my attention to read a college text. Then I started to feel bad, but nothing very unusual, because always when I force a lot I feel bad. However, after that I became more spiritually sensitive.
But I was happy before that, it seemed to be evolving, beginning to have the awareness I had before the kundalini was awakened.